HACKER Q&A
📣 afflicted

How do you find a "boring" tech job?


I've worked at startups as an engineer for several years now and I'm sick of it. The stress vs. what I get out of it isn't worth it anymore, and it significantly impacted my health in the process. I want a boring job with boring tech at a larger boring company with stability and predictability. I just don't know where to begin looking. How do I figure this out?


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Financial services. Been in this for a few years now and the pension, benefits etc are just way better than anything I've seen at my level in the uk. Great for having kids, 6 months paid parental leave. Sensible people. Older developers. Also the domain knowledge is directly transferable to my own life (understanding financial instruments). I doubt I'll leave this sector now.

👤 sneed_chucker
Apply to any SWE/DevOps/SysAdmin/IT role at a Fortune 500 company that isn't a tech company.

👤 Mountain_Skies
Keep in mind that when you become an expense rather than a source of revenue, the company is always looking for ways to cut costs and thus your position. Abuse by management and other employees is going to be given little attention. Boring "safe" jobs are often full of managers who wish to be somewhere else but cannot be, either due to skills or personality. In job roles where you're generating revenue, these types of managers get weeded out often as they're bad for retaining the company's revenue generating resources. Those same managers are tolerated and even seen somewhat positively in companies where the roles they supervise are expenses.

👤 nullwriter
As most have mentioned, join a big company that is not a Tech Company.

Most of my 10 years has been working for startup size companies. It was fun at times, then it became stressing, too much work, too much time etc. Specially when I worked in a digital agency, working for clients tech products is horrible and stressing.

I finally changed job to a huge company B2B, non tech, but needs tech for their customers. They move SLOW, Steady, and with structure. They work for their own product.

I find that I work on tickets that, in my old job (startup) I would've had to do in a few hours, and here I can take a couple days and open a PR that has been battle tested, done with time, and no stress. Much much better quality.

I love my job now. And I feel I'm actually gaining such a valuable experience! I'm never going back to how I worked for 10 years


👤 hilux
Just apply to a big company. Any big company should do, but to be on the safe side, apply to an IT job where the employer is not a "tech company."

Government and university jobs are boring too!


👤 listenallyall
Look for job postings seeking .NET skills and technologies. A sure sign the company is on a steady path without tossing everything out for new and shiny, is comfortable paying for stuff, not looking to do anything bleeding edge, little to no open source, and most everything is "enterprise" focused.

👤 bicx
Large insurance companies have a lot of tech jobs and they are boring as hell.

👤 1290cc
Just look for companies that are profitable (read their financial statements) and have long average employee tenure (use linkedin premium, check company insights). I'm returning to a boring/old tech company because the benefits were better than any startup I worked at, I was making $400k-500k/yr, I had free time after hours and enjoyed my weekends.

👤 jujube3
Big doesn't automatically mean stable. Also, the company can be successful, and yet you may not be successful within it.

Ultimately, you just have to take a look at what you are good at, and what companies are likely to value that.


👤 leonroy
Could it be the language and framework determines the industry and planning/release cadence too?

I’ve worked in Java most of my career and anecdotally the Java projects were the most well run and unexciting.

The PHP/Laravel and JavaScript projects by contrast were on almost unreasonably tight deadlines, somewhat chaotic (the PHP ones anyways) and high stress.


👤 lupire
I think subby's asking how to find these jobs, not ask about the existence of non-start up companies.

👤 WarOnPrivacy
I'm self employed as an on-call IT guy. I like it well enough. It's not data-entry but it's down there.

👤 Frummy
Mainframe is as boring and stable as it gets Have fun or rather have boredom

👤 LordHeini
The lazy way: Get on xing LinkedIn and the like. Respond to all the recruiters and let them put you on their lists.

Watit and pick the one offering a boring job at something like an insurance company.


👤 dzhiurgis
Depends what boring is for you.

My perfect boring job was remotely developing a product with solid CI, but otherwise minimal process, which was kinda like a startup.

My most hated job was just like others mentioned - consulting at non-tech company, tons of process, very little done, tons of meetings, hybrid in-person/commute, horrible codebase. It was the most boring time ever because I had to sit countless meetings, gather requirements, fight tons of stakeholders. Whereas with product it was always pretty clear - features were well defined, I could cleanly deliver them in hours or days and just keep ever improving it.

Edit: wonder if you could buy someone's boring business via seller financing.


👤 smorgasboard
Depends on what you think is boring and if that’s a good thing. I couldn’t go back to endless meetings about what it is I’m doing. I worked at a startup that started employing work-shy middle management types and it destroyed my enjoyment of the job. Just created noise where it wasn’t needed. I can’t do a boring job. Don’t see the point

👤 austin-cheney
Banks, government, military, insurance, and so on.

👤 tonfreed
I got into a bank first as a contractor and then just hanging tight until an internal full time spot opened up. Maybe see if there's some managed services agencies hiring that can get you in somewhere

👤 bitwize
Work for a boring company: big insurance, big health care, banks, the government.

Brush up on your Java skills, esp. Java EE and Spring Framework. If you know COBOL, doors may open for you.


👤 boring-alterego
Be willing to move to a plant in the middle of nowhere.

👤 kalaka
Why not start your own startup based on your experience working with startups.

Delegate your work so you be stress free, plus you move towards growth


👤 yieldcrv
Public sector, public sector contracting

👤 oigursh
Science & Research Institutes

👤 tryauuum
HPC

👤 pavel_lishin
> I've worked at startups as an engineer for several years now and I'm sick of it.

> a larger boring company with stability and predictability.

I mean, it sounds like you've got it already figured out - don't apply to startups, apply to large companies. Most of them are rather boring, although many have internal politics and other issues that are unfortunately rather exciting.


👤 oldpersonintx
Apply to Cisco. Not a joke.

But be forewarned they layoff a lot of people (but never for individual performance reasons). But so do most of the boring companies these days.