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📣 siamese_puff

Best Relief for Body Aches?


Male and late twenties. I’m starting to experience constant back, neck and shoulder aches. Additionally, I’m getting some joint pain in my fingers.

I’m a runner and recently starting lifting more weights. I also started getting massages and taking magnesium supplements. What else can I do here? I’m feeling like an old man and my health insurance in the US sucks.

Just looking for things people have done to get back to normal. I think I tense up pretty hard throughout the day without realizing it.


  👤 swatcoder Accepted Answer ✓
Assuming you spend lots of your day at a desk, in just a few related postures, you'd do well to think far more about mobility than you currently seem to be.

Running and lifting are both great, but running is pretty repetitive and uniform and gets moreso the better you get at it. And lifting that most people explore is usually focused on increasing power (and/or bulk) in a just few major muscle groups.

And all that is really great, but if you're feeling achy and stiff, those aren't aimed very well at the problem.

Think about stuff that's more dynamic and varied: dance, pilates, yoga, gymnastics, martial arts, rock climbing, etc. If you take any of those seriously, they all have deep progressions with high skill ceilings that can hold your interest and create the same kind of feedback loop of pride and accomplishment that you probably find in running and lifting already.

If you're near a big city, you might also be able to go a little further into the massage and movement world with practices like rolfing, alexander technique, or feldonkrais. These are more passive and induce less progressive/permanent change, but can provide a radical change to the way you feel.

Meditation can help, too.


👤 PaulHoule
Get checked out for

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseas...

trouble with the jaw can manifest as back, neck and shoulder pain. I suffered for years but didn't get better until my dentist pointed out I was grinding my teeth and told me to get a bite guard. Almost immediately the symptoms focalized in my jaw. For about six months I mostly ate soups that I made by throwing any random whatever into a blender (it was a running gag that I'd throw everything from handfuls of seaweed to lima beans and nuts in) and gradually got better. My jaw bugs me now maybe one day a month.


👤 Sunspark
In addition to the suggestion to be evaluated for TMJ, be more mindful of posture. If you're sitting with your head craned forward, that's called tech neck and people do it with phones too. Pull your chin back. Your head is about 16 lbs, that weight shouldn't be supported at an angle constantly. You may need better glasses, or increase the logical DPI of your display so you can see the text better.

👤 natmaka
Already pointed here: avoid letting your nose pointing down (adjust your screen position, raise your smartphone while using it...). And avoid bad stress (=> relax).

Do not sit down for more than approx 1 hour (=> periodically walk for at least 3 minutes).

Get a 'tui na' massage by a serious (probably Chinese) practitioner.

Twice a week either hit the gym or swim (moderately train, whatever not dangerous discipline you like).


👤 lostdog
I've been through this, and am nearly back to normal. Roughly in order of importance: Fix your work ergonomics, lifting & massage, and reduce stress.

The neck and joint pain stuff sounds a lot like ergonomics issues. Until it stops, work only at a desk, only with an external monitor or raised laptop screen, and only with your elbows at 90 degrees. Get an ergo keyboard that is split, such as a kinesis. Do not compromise on this until you are pain-free. Take breaks frequently.

Lifting and massage are great too. For lifting, the big compound lifts help a lot, but be sure to handle muscle imbalances so you can make progress without injury. For example, I have to do a ton of side-steps. Postural exercises are really useful too. Anything that strengthens your neck and shoulders so you can pull your head into the right position.

The tensing up is hard to avoid but very important. Therapy is a tool for dealing with this. It's helpful to realize that people tense up because, in the moment, they believe it will improve their work output, but really it doesn't.


👤 anizan
Check your ergonomic position first and then change the chair if you need to. I sawed off 1.5 inches off my 30" table to be ergonomically correct and it worked.

https://www.ergotron.com/en-us/tools/workspace-planner


👤 tionate
You’re already lifting, so that is a good start.

As you hit 30 and beyond, you absolutely need a stretching/mobility routine. Whether it is yoga, or short 10-15 min rolling/stretching programs (eg “limber 11”) that you can do when you wake up. Things like BJJ and also great for body awareness and getting you moving properly.

In terms of lifting, in my early 30s I transitioned entirely to minimalist kettlebell programs and feel much better than when I was doing heavy barbell work. Plenty of info on the net but a good starting point is to get a 16kg and 24kg kettlebell and start with “simple and sinister” (just swings and getups), and progress through a whole other bunch of minimal programs (2-3 movements eg ROP, DFW), and see what works for you.


👤 mharig
As already mentioned, weight lifting concentrates on a few muscles/muscle groups. You should switch to Calisthenics, or rock climbing. Maybe accompanied by flexibility training.

The joint pain in the fingers, when not coming from the intensified weight lifting, hints to an increased inflammatory 'ground state' of your body. Check the causes, maybe you need a diet.

The metabolism of humans change around the age of 30-35. So get accustomed to your new normal.

Oh, and avoid carrying your cellphone close to the body. Especially not in the pockets of your jeans.


👤 SkyPuncher
A hot tub was literally a game changer for me. I have lingering sports injuries plus growing aches. There were many days that I was on the edge of tears from the pain.

Then I got a hot tub. 15 minutes in it cuts out 80% of my pain. Doesn’t even have to be jets. Just the warm water seems to alleviate a lot of my pain.


👤 bodantogat
I'm much older and have been through similar symptoms, and 3 surgeries ( shoulder, knee). I know you said your health insurance is not great- but if possible find a doctor specializing in Sports Medicine if your primary care physician cannot find a reason other than poor posture/overuse.

👤 austin-cheney
You need to determine cause. The cause of pain could be muscular, nerve, arthritis, or something else. I recommend visiting a doctor as most of these factors are immediately simple to diagnose.

Once you determine cause you can then determine the proper course of treatment and pain management.


👤 rawgabbit
Ergonomic keyboard may alleviate pain in your fingers.

👤 sandwichukulele
Personally I found a heating pad to really help for body aches.

👤 vhcr
Low impact exercise, swimming worked wonders for my back pain.

👤 my2centsWorth
Read “Born to Run 2: The Ultimate Training Guide”

👤 idontwantthis
Have you learned to lift properly from a trainer?