HACKER Q&A
📣 dev_by_day

Are there any open source forks of nomad and consul?


Considering hashicorp has moved away from open source, does anyone know if there are any community forks of nomad and consul like there is now OpenTofu for terraform?


  👤 muhammadn Accepted Answer ✓
I had been tired of waiting for someone (like Linux Foundation) to step up to provide opensource forks of Nomad and Consul.

Had been 5 months and the new hashicorp's code has been changed (bugfixes, etc) and as the drift from the last opensource code becomes wider (even worst, a major change with major versions), i'm setup an organisation for the community to discuss and help on the future to work on the last opensourced version of consul and nomad.

My organisation depends a lot on consul and nomad and the BSL makes it unnecessarily complicated for our case.

https://github.com/OpenHotPot/OpenHotPot (Consul) https://github.com/OpenHotPot/OpenNood (Nomad)


👤 trilobyte
OpenBao is a fork of Vault. I'm not sure how well-supported the project is, but there is a decent amount of enthusiasm.

👤 hitpointdrew
Serious question, why not just use kubernetes instead of Nomad?

The only “kinda cool”, thing I saw with Nomad is that it can “orchestrate” binary files, not just containers.

That said, putting binaries in containers isn’t very difficult.


👤 mdaniel
I actually wouldn't get really worked up about it since new owner introduces opportunities for new rules, doubly so given that IBM was one of the participants in OpenTofu so it seems they are more open source fans than not

I've also heard that the fuck-you license change was actually a negotiation tactic for the acquisition


👤 remram
I don't think the license for Nomad and Vault is bothering users as much, there are no businesses offering forks of it or SaaS like there were with Terraform (as far as I know).


👤 nikisweeting
It's not at all what you're asking for, but when I last transferred away from Vault I ended up landing on 1Password.

There are still some rough edges but it's been a decent secret store for my small team doing mostly Docker Compose/bare metal stuff.

I'm curious to hear if any other people have managed to use open OR closed-source source password managers as Vault/Consul replacements.


👤 mise_en_place
You can use etcd for service discovery...that's how k8s does it, no? As for nomad I never used it much, but did like that you could run things locally and have unified environments. I would recommend Nix but we all know what's going on there, sadly FOSS has been consumed by political infighting as well.

👤 iamawacko
It doesn't seem so.

I really love Nomad's UX, so I hope we get one sometime soon-ish.


👤 stackskipton
Not that I've found and it would make sense there isn't really. Kubernetes with all it's warts is clear Nomad equivalent and insert random Kubernetes service mesh here.

I know neither of them are as nicely opinioned at those two services but there is starting to be plenty of more opinioned Kubernetes deployments.


👤 vvoruganti
There is https://www.serf.io/ which is a Hashicorp project as well, but the license doesn't seem as bad as nomad and from what I understand it's the basis for things like nomad and consul.

Learned about it in this blog post: https://fly.io/blog/building-clusters-with-serf/