HACKER Q&A
📣 tobwen

Why are there no no-name inkjet printers?


TL;DR Are there any DIY or "asia clones" of injekt printers that can compete with cheap branded products?

For years, users have bemoaned the seemingly planned obsolescence built into inkjet printers by major manufacturers. They struggle with questionable universal ink formulations (which might destroy the printer header) and resort to illicit maintenance programs to reset (waste) ink tank counters.

Replacing components is either impossible or involves such high labor or part costs (printer head) that it results in a total loss. The European Union has responded indirectly with a repairability mandate. However, simply being repairable doesn't address the potential for spare parts to have built-in expiration dates.

I realize that millions are spent on development and the devices are financed by inks and spare parts - but today you can get even laser and 3D printers with highly complex mechanics for comparatively little money.

Does anyone know of equivalent alternatives to the major providers? I'm not talking about "fine art", but normal home-use stuff.


  👤 iancmceachern Accepted Answer ✓
It's because it's not the printer. It's the print head. The printer is super simple. The printhead is a marvelous of modern engineering, MEMs and only able to be made in quantity by a handful of firms in the world. If you made your own printer, it would need to use one of their print heads, and they could lock you out. If you wanted to make your own print heads you would need to build a $100m mems semiconductor plant

👤 jklein11
The strategy on printers has largely been, “lose money on their hardware and make it back on the ink.” If you were to go to market against them you would be competing with something that is already losing money. For your average consumer it’s probably not worth buying a machine that is 10x better for 20x the price.

👤 cpach
May I ask why you want inkjet specifically?

In my experience, it’s often not worth it.

I have settled on a monochrome laser printer from Brother. It’s very reliable. Buying a toner cartridge is not exactly cheap but not really too expensive either. They last quite long. The printer itself does what it should, without hassle.

At least for me, I rarely have the need for printing in colour. And AFAIK, inkjets need regular use to not “clog up”. So I’ve come to the conclusion that it doesn’t suite my common use-case.

In a situation where I must have color I can go to the office, or the local library. Or even a print shop if I need something really fancy. But honestly, I think the last time I printed something in colour was over five years ago.

Sometimes my wife print photos, but that can be ordered via Internet, so we haven’t found that to be a reason to buy an inkjet either.


👤 SR2Z
I suspect it's because inkjet/laser printers are actually very complicated devices and it's not that easy to create viable alternatives - especially when the Western companies are already selling their printers at or below cost.

👤 t1c
It's not no-name, but Xiaomi has a line of printers under the Mijia brand if you want some Chinese inkjet or laser printers.

👤 j45
Depending on what you're after, Brother inkjet printers probably check some of the boxes.

Ink is open

Drivers are pretty open and full featured

Printers often have quite a bit of open features for accessing directly.

I used to think print heads were pretty common and learned otherwise when looking at apps like Qimage Pro to get different usage out of it


👤 magixx
Pantum is exactly such a company, I cannot comment on the quality of the printers as I still went with a refurbished Brother.

👤 _xerces_
Inkjets are complicated, hard to get right and companies that make them have to hire electrical engineers, software engineers, firmware engineers, hardware engineers, mechanical engineers, chemical engineers, experts in microfluidics and more. Not to mention, I bet a lot of stuff is protected by patents owned by HP, Funai, Xerox and Epson to mention a few.

Add to that, the market model is mostly a "razors and blades" model where you sell the hardware at or below cost and charge more for the ink and everyone hates you for it.


👤 cranky908canuck
(re: lasers...)

Also, don't ignore the used market. The price of a used printer can be low enough (if you are somewhat patient) that new printers are either an impulse buy or a very carefully researched one. (ie., not in the middle).

I have two of the aforementioned Brother laser printers (older generation), $20 each. If I see another using the same cartridges for a similar price I'll grab it and toss everything except the toner unit and the tray (no space for three printers).

Edit: if you go this route you should be somewhat familiar with the age of the tech (so, you aren't absolved of some research). For me, it's a bit simpler for now, I already have consumables for the TN420, so I just look for that. At some point it'll be old and I'll have to do the roadwork for something newer.


👤 copperx
What is the use case for an inkjet printer at home? Photos?

I have owned tons of printers in my life, but never an inkjet.

They're lower resolution, slower, nuch less reliable, and more expensive than any laser in the long term. Are the colors better than a color laser? I've never compared them.


👤 simne
Because you don't paid real cost of inkjet printer directly, they sold much cheaper than cost, but you pay difference when buying ink.

This is same business model as with game consoles, PS5 is also sold much cheaper than cost it's hardware on free market, but people than buying games and paying for subscriptions and Sony earn money from fees.

Unfortunately, game console hardware is not cheap to produce and the same with inkjet printer hardware - they are really complicated.


👤 fxtentacle
Profit margins among printer manufacturers are already below 5% even with the current "inflated" ink prices. That suggests that it doesn't make financial sense to enter the market with a lower cost product.

👤 cranky908canuck
Want to ask, are you looking for a cheap printer, or really asking about why there isn't a low end printer brand? A lot of replies (including mine) are responding to the former question, not the latter.

👤 jzemeocala
There are two words that strike sufficient fear into the hearts of the worlds leaders which has likely led to the current state of global printer enshittification:

Counterfeit money