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📣 danielovichdk

Best Alternatives to OpenAI ChatGPT?


With the last days exposure of OpenAIs bow down to being a for profit company (imo) I would like to hear what else I can use for chatting with an assistant just as good as chatgpt?

Anything as good ?


  👤 SeanAnderson Accepted Answer ✓
Not really, no. The whole reason the fiasco occurred in the first place is because it's in a league of its own.

Bard and Claude are likely to be suggested, but the competency gap is palpable. I've tried using them and failed to find them sufficiently compelling to adopt into my workflow for programming tasks.


👤 redeux
I’ve found Anthropic’s Claud v2 quite good as a general purpose LLM assistant at a variety of tasks, including code generation and ideation.

You can find it from Anthropic directly[1] or access it through AWS Bedrock[2]. The latter is how I gained access.

1. https://claude.ai/

2. https://aws.amazon.com/bedrock/


👤 nickthegreek
If you were using GPT-4 before, then nothing else is going to match it. If you were only using the free version, then you might be able to get by the main competition.

👤 leumassuehtam
You will not find anything as good as the paid version of ChatGPT. You might try Phind [0].

[0] https://www.phind.com/


👤 spullara
Azure OpenAI GPT-4

👤 juliensalinas
Claude (Anthropic) might be the closest direct alternative to ChatGPT (but it's not available in alls countries). You might also want to try ChatDolphin by NLP Cloud (a company I created 3 years ago as an OpenAI alternative): https://chat.nlpcloud.com Open-source is also catching up very quickly. The best models you might want to try today are LLaMA 2 70B, Yi 34B, or Mistral 7B.

👤 rakejake
You could Llama2 70B and Mistral. Perplexity Labs are currently offering them on their website - https://labs.perplexity.ai/

You can choose which one you need from the drop-down.

I've not tested it thoroughly or anything, but LLMs have a wide variety of uses. The non-GPT ones suffice for quite a few, sometimes even better (than the free version, I've not tried GPT4)


👤 tomohelix
For coding and "reasoning" tasks, there isn't any that can match GPT4. You can try Bing but it is slightly nerfed in my experience.

For general writing, simple discussion, basic knowledge etc, Claude is pretty good. In fact, I find Claude's writing a lot better than GPT. It sounds more "normal".

For vision and API calls and developing apps and such, unfortunately, GPT is king and anything else pales in comparison.


👤 huytersd
Nothing is as good. Bard is quite good but not the same.

👤 Arson9416
As others have mentioned, it's not there yet.

One good thing we can hope to expect from the OpenAI drama is that it is now very clear that we need truly open and powerful models. A new generation of startups can't be bottlenecked so critically on a single service. Hopefully OpenAI employees see this as well and do what they can to help decentralize generative AI.


👤 adt
200+ alternative LLMs here:

https://lifearchitect.ai/models-table/

GPT-4 is the largest right now, by a factor of about 100x:

https://lifearchitect.ai/models/


👤 williamstein
Phind.com’s custom model (which is I think publicly available) is pretty good for coding tasks. It helps enormously that it uses RAG with web search. I use it all the time and also GPT-4, and GPT-4 is better, but Phind’s model is close and also very fast. I have nothing to do with the company, and am just a random (free) user.

👤 simonhughes22
Llama 2 (and variants). Has the lowest hallucination rate (https://github.com/vectara/hallucination-leaderboard), and its open source and so we know what went into it, and the community can improve it

👤 WendyTheWillow
What happened in the last few days that changed your opinion of how OpenAI was operating? Surely you didn’t previously think the board of the non-profit had, until that point, constrained in any way the development of ChatGPT…

👤 cellis
No. But that holds especially true for subtle edge cases, rather than the general case. You might be able to get answers to "common" or "simple" questions just as well using Mistral7B or Llama 2 13B.

👤 Aerbil313
There are many local and third party good LLMs, but there is no ChatGPT style FOSS interface which can do math, browse the web and read pdfs at a minimum. Does anybody know any?

👤 ai_g0rl
Try Perplexity AI: https://www.perplexity.ai/

👤 intellectronica

👤 summerlight
Claude is useful. Bard seems good enough but for more serious usages you probably want to wait for Gemini.

👤 jes5199
to second this, I really want an LLM that can call a REST API like ChatGPT plugins can. What is out there?

for this use case, it might be okay if it’s not as intelligent as GPT 4


👤 Gys
So in your opinion being for profit is bad?

Interesting.

Specifically on OAI there were several threads here before discussing how much money it was loosing and if they might not make it.


👤 taraparo
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