Would you stop eating meat after AI unlocks communication with animals?

I communicate with animals a lot, for that matter animals communicate with each other a lot, just not verbally.

I think cows are affectionate, that doesn’t stop me from eating beef. For that matter, my wife and I were driving into work and saw a huge buck in the side of the road that somebody has just hit with a car, she came back with some friends and found somebody else had cut off the antlers, they hauled the deer back to a friend’s workshop and cut it up, see here

https://mastodon.social/@UP8/111259362923381643

what is immoral about that?

If there was anything there to communicate with, we wouldn't need ai to do it. In fact we'd probably be at war with them just like with other humans, not owning them and using them and extincting them.

This question can only spring from magical mystical nonsense thinking.

You may as well daydream about ai unlocking communication with toasters, or the earth.

We can already communicate with animals. They don't have a secret language. We're probably better able to understand them than they each other because we research and look for signals that are irrelevant to the daily lives of wild creatures.

There's a lot of media depiction of scenarios where someone can talk to animals, either via magic or by technology (a different magic). So it does not surprise me that a lot of people just believe animals can talk to each other if only we could understand.

This isn't to say there aren't some unknown communications going on - we regularly find new ones. But we're never going to find what we would consider a language.

I was a vegetarian for over 20 years, then I got a highly intelligent dog, who spent years trying hard to convince me to eat (more) meat!

Would a wolf pack stop hunting elk if they could all just sit down and talk with each other?

We're not wolves, of course, but meat can reasonably be some percentage of our diet. I prefer a few meals a month that include meat.

I've read and thoroughly enjoyed Charlotte's Web. I love watching animals of all shapes and sizes and abilities. I sat in a stand for hours, days, and ultimately shot a deer for food. I also accept that I will eat meat and enjoy it as a delicious luxury, even if they have something interesting to say. We've killed so many wolves that it is now on us to either give more land back to wolves, removing our fences and livestock, or kill the deer ourselves.

There are already animals I will not eat unless it's necessary for survival. Whales. Wolves. Bears. Raptors. Chimpanzees. The list is fairly long.

Consider reading The Birchbark House by Louise Erdrich[0], about Omakayas and her family (Anishinaabe, 1847) living through the seasons of a year.

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birchbark_House

I do not expect it would change it, but I wouldn't know something that hasn't happened yet. However, I might also be skeptical of the AI working very well. (I might also avoid to eat if they are too endangered.)

But, I do think that people treat animals badly (and treat other people badly too, who are also animals, of course), and should be avoided. (Also should be avoided attacking them as much as they do (sometimes indirectly due to policies relating to other stuff, such as structure of lands, pollution, etc), which is, I think, too much compared with how much they should be; but also the how badly is treated even by one instance is also too much badly, too.) I don't know if such AI communcation would help; maybe, but I guess probably it won't help very much. Because you will eat, is not the excuse to treat everyone even more badly and even more often.

Would you stop being poor after AI unlocks being a trillionaire?

Or maybe you might be still poor, because AI is not trained to be working for the poor people.

AI will not unlock communication with animals, because 99.9% species of animals doesn't create sanitize data for training a LLAMA (not YAMA).

When the animals will learn to speak and develop a symbolic language, maybe AI could develop communication with them. In the meanwhile, keep using LATIN ALPHABET DERIVATIVES IN HIGH ORDER LANGUAGES to develop machines and algorithms and transform them to the Gregorian Calendar to count ticks in a processor an create Human Readable Datetime types to keep record of your *nixonian alchemy finances.

We all love the 70s. Hippies, Yuppies and SuperCows commands.

Electric Jimi.

PD: Take LSD and convert to Buddhism if you want to speak with animals, it is cheaper and pollutes less this communal IDE people use to create coins and stocks.

No. That is a ridiculous question. When artificial meat production scales, I will consider eating that.

It ironic that most people consider their "pets" a part of the family, but other animals are just a steak.

Conclusion: most people really don';t give a shit if animals are snetient or not.

They want their make believe family member and eat it too...

AI will not unblock this because its about taking care to the animals so much that the animals effectively have a leisure to communicate. It's not a data problem.

I think people were too quick to believe that AI will let you talk to animals article that came out last week. AI in it's current iteration needs clean training data... none exists for animal voices. And that probably isn't changing any time soon. Beyond maybe: "I'm hungry."

With that said, if it did happen, it would 100% depend on what they had to say.

I would respect the wishes of any animal that can say "Please don't eat me"

It's as if the animals are speaking a foreign language. But if we were able to talk to them, they would actually struggle to form a sentence (unless the translator AI made it look that way).

I went vegan over 20 years ago. I grew up hunting and farming. I didn't need AI to see that animals have emotions and feelings to influence my decision.

It depends what the animals would say. Because of low intelligence they would probably mit say something that leads to a conversation

I would probably take an ax to AI and go back to eating my burger. This reminds me of the ending of the fly. "kill meeeee"

Humans, you are thinking of humans. AI is a tool built on top of predicting next token using training dataset.

Thinking AI translation between humans and other animals would be anything real is preposterous and dangerous until there is training data for that. Data provided by human scientists. Who would have to learn to communicate with other animals first.

Knowing that other animals feel pain should be enough to not eat meat, as long as you can get equivalent nutrition.

If anything my appetite for shark fin becomes righteous considering the amount of lives I save.

Would you stop eating vegetables after AI unlocks communication with plants? No... and No.

The only interesting thing would be if AI could make them understand US. Which it can’t.

Hey hey https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/572731277582906714/

I'll tell you after this juicy steak is devoured.

Ask: Are you yum?