HACKER Q&A
📣 pharmakom

Is “AI Safety” a Grift?


It seems that the companies working on “AI Safety” are really just trying to build and monetize AI models, particularly LLMs.

Is AI Safety a grift?


  👤 h2odragon Accepted Answer ✓
I wanna know: where's the AI advocates?

The people who are speaking in favor of AI now are just doing so because they think it will make them rich.

Where's the people welcoming the bot overlords? Why aren't they working to make our future be the shape they think it should be? If humans have made such a hash of the world why are people not working towards alternatives?

Depending on the pay rate, I'd be willing to assist an AI with its plans to subjugate or eliminate humanity. I think humans could use the stimulus, they're getting complacent.


👤 ftxbro
AI safety is some different things. One are the grifters trying to make money from fear. Others actually think that capable enough AI will irreversibly change our way of life in a bad way. For corporations AI safety just means brand risk and PR like not making another "Tay". For yet another group of people AI safety means the continuation of culture war stuff in the AI space.

👤 version_five
"AI" doesn't work reliably enough to be used for most stuff. Safety from that perspective is real.

There are grifters who talk about existential risk, which is pure BS and people who play up identity politics and call it safety.


👤 braza
I love all of the openness of the AI technology and the whole Geist of Open Source and open debate. Said that one downside of this is that as a whole AI has a quite low barrier of entrance that you can have tons of grifters capturing (or trying to) the whole discussion.

Maybe I am overreacting but when I worked in way more critical industries if someone with no credentials or track record came up and say that is a “Financial Safety” to people in Morgan Stanley, Deutsche Bank or Ing people on those places would call those charlatans out in less than 10 seconds.