Among Bezos,Musk, Zukerberg or any other,who do you admire the most?

For me it's the inventors locked away somewhere. There's a lot of glory in being a big tech CEO, making the billions, etc. I'm not really very interested in that: I'm more interested in the stories of building important or useful things. I like the Wozzes, you know?

Now that's not to say that I don't think being visionary is important. It's just that I don't relate to the "visionary" or "company building" types as much as I do to inventors and programmers.

I do, however, really admire my current CEO and CTO, both... my CEO and I have talked at length as to his goals for a company, and he's said on multiple occasions that what he really wants to do is take care of people. That's different. That's real. You see Musk talk about the companies like they're his children, but I didn't get the impression that it was the people who made up the companies. I get that impression from my CEO. It feels good.

My CTO is a classic inventor. He can chase down anything, he has the tools for any problem, and if he didn't he'd either find them or create them. It's insane the way his brain works. Mine doesn't work that way, it just doesn't. And that's OK -- it's just very cool to watch someone like that go.

No, I don't care for the psychopathy of hyper tech billionaires. Imo, it's better to have a smaller company along with a healthy dose of humanity. That's what I'm getting from the leadership at my company now... just damn good people. People who are trying their best for their company, for their employees.

Ooh, I like this game.

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Eh, seriously though. To me, they all feel like conmen that engage in bad behavior to some extent.

I have to say that I admire Zuckerberg the least of this group because the bad behavior of Facebook feels so much more personal. I think you can almost get away with that stuff if you're charismatic like Steve Jobs and have good taste, but that's IMO not him at all.

As far as Musk goes, I think it's impossible for him to have a fair shake these days because of his disputes with the media in taking away their checkmarks and disagreeing with many of them politically. I can write out a long list of stuff I disagree with Elon Musk on, but I think most people aren't going to weigh everything fairly right now because he's having his 2 minutes of hate in the press.

With Bezos, it feels like he'd be willing to do anything to succeed, no matter how crooked. That's admirable in terms of succeeding in business, but maybe not so much as a person.

Of all of these people, IMO Musk is the only one that has a realistic chance at a super positive legacy. 40 years from now, Amazon and Facebook might still be some boring megacorporations or not. That's great for their descendants' wallets, but who cares about them otherwise? With Musk, you're probably not going to remember specific details of his shitposting on X that angered you, but the Earth might be a better place from some technology he was heavily involved in.

Geohot I guess.

I just read the book "The Innovators" (https://www.amazon.com/Innovators-Hackers-Geniuses-Created-R...) (although I got it from my public library) -- some great stories in there, although not about bezos/musk/zuckerberg (book is from 2014). His main theory is that innovations mostly happen collaboratively, from Ada Lovelace and Charles Babbage to the inventors of "nupedia" and wiki software combining to create wikipedia.

The stories of Xerox PARC, Doug Englebart and others are really amazing. I myself would be (if I were a lot smarter) the Woz, not the Jobs......