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📣 alexfromapex

Is the world ready for the inevitable ChatGPT rug pull?


Is the world ready for the inevitable ChatGPT rug pull?


  👤 reilly3000 Accepted Answer ✓
/r/localllama is working on it. So are every enterprise. Nobody wants OpenAI to own the space centrally nor train the model that could undermine their business, not even OpenAI wants that.

There is a global race on to acquire vector math hardware (GPU, TPU, etc) and its manufacturing capabilities. LLMs at their best are intimate and deserve first-class isolation, and doing so on owned hardware is the best way to guarantee that.

OpenAI enjoys a market leading position and may for some time, but this technology is the last thing that makes sense to be centralized in the long term. For now, it’s just impractical for most to run a 1.7 trillion parameter model on hardware they own, but OpenAI is catalyzing a movement of hundreds of thousands people who have been able to run finely-tuned 13 billion parameter with usable results on consumer hardware- in the past few months.

I don’t worry much about an OpenAI rug pull. I don’t worry as much about AI revolution happening too quickly either, not at this pace. Should I?


👤 walthamstow
I think v3.5 is already a lot worse than earlier this year and v4 is basically the only option if you want a reliable answer.

This coincided with the update that made v4 the default option for new chats for Plus subscribers (of which I am one), drastically increased its speed, and removed the hourly message limits.


👤 andrewfromx
"the sudden and intentional removal of liquidity or funds from a project" - kind of a stretch from that definition but I think OP is saying the value of ChatGPT api calls is going to zero? Because soon every PC will be able to run the exact same LLM?

👤 evilduck
Bing Chat has already shown that injecting advertising into generated content is possible, if paid API usage and ChatGPT Plus subscriptions can't keep the bills paid then there's a whole bunch of enshittification levers that can be pulled to make money: ads, quotas, additional in-page upsells, and locking it down entirely. It's just a matter of keeping the value proposition slightly ahead of competitors.

ChatGPT has the lion's share of name recognition and media buzz but every one of the competitors in this space is probably just waiting for them to misstep so they can step into the spotlight.


👤 PaulHoule
Elaborate.

👤 muzani
I expect than in 3 years at this rate, most people will just be accessing LLMs via AWS. Many use GPT through Azure now. ChatGPT could have as many clones as Flappy Bird.

👤 martingalex2
Who is the carpetbagger?