HACKER Q&A
📣 retskrad

Why do investors see Apple as a $3T company?


I love Apple products and I use all of their devices but at the end of the day, they are the least important company compared to Google, Microsoft, Amazon and Meta. The world would go down without Google. Governments and businesses run on Microsoft suite of apps. The internet runs on AWS and Azure. Businesses would go under without Meta. If Apple went bankrupt today, it would suck but people would just use Android and Windows devices. The economy will not be impacted because App Store developers will just migrate over to Androids App Store and sell their devices there.

I guess the argument is that Apple is a money printing machine but so is all of these other Silicon Valley companies.


  👤 iwanttocomment Accepted Answer ✓
The world wouldn't go down without Google. They clearly have an advantage in many areas, but there are plenty of options for business app hosting, email, and even search that are roughly equivalent to "without an iPhone I'd just use Android". If you didn't have Google, you'd still have Apple's services, and you'd just use Office365 and Bing or Fastmail or, hell, Zoho. Do you want to? Maybe not. Could you? Sure you could. The world would continue spinning.

The world won't go down without AWS and Azure. There are any number of hosting services that can provide similar services, even if it would require relearning, and in a worst case, people would just go back to racking servers and hiring bare-metal admins. A totally functional cloud Internet could certainly exist with Linode and Akamai, with a little Hetzner in the mix.

No businesses would go under without Meta. The world would be a better place without Meta. Like, what's the worst case scenario here? People can't log into Facebook, or use their Oculus? Oh no! What are we going to do?!

There would probably be some serious weirdness if Microsoft went under. Likely more so than Apple. But, they're at a 2.5T market cap. Perhaps they're just undervalued - it's just not cool to defend Microsoft - rather than this being a situation with Apple being overvalued.


👤 kypro
The thing I personally don't understand about Apple's valuation is the China risk. Their current revenues and profit margins require global supply chains (especially between US and China) remain stable.

Not saying that's necessarily a bad bet to make, and Apple obviously have a lot of leverage with supplier countries given their size, but they're extremely exposed to geopolitical risk when compared to Google or Microsoft. I guess I just think the valuation should be adjusted down for that risk a bit.


👤 version_five
Flight to quality. They think apple will preserve capital better through inflation / us currency devaluation than other things. Just my opinion.

👤 billconan
based on this logic, I think the farming/food industry should have the most valuation.