HACKER Q&A
📣 amichail

Why do Mac fans also like the Apple II, which was nothing like the Mac?


Any ideas?


  👤 PaulHoule Accepted Answer ✓
I saw the Apple ][ when I was in the 3rd grade, lots of people were crazy for and crazy for the Apple brand.

Internally though there was a big fight between supporters of the Mac and the ][. Apple didn't think the ][ would be as long-lived as it would turn out be so they rushed the flawed /// to market, and then there was the Lisa and then the Mac. Jobs thought the ][ would be dead 6 months after the /// came out but there was this time from 1979 to 1985 or so that 8-bit computers just hung in the air and there wasn't real progress from one year to the next because the close coupling between the video system and the system bus meant you couldn't just come out with a machine that was 50% faster each year -- people weren't going to trade up to a better machine if that meant breaking all your software.

Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs both left the company because of this conflict but you can imagine a different world where Apple did not invest in the Mac but instead bet it all on the Apple ][, where the //gs came out a few years before it did and took the place of the Mac and then they followed a different trajectory to end up where they are now.

Some people who where they might look at it with nostalgia, people who weren't there might appreciate the sense of industrial design that was front and center with the ][.


👤 jzombie
I am Mac fan. However we had an Apple II at one point, which I thought was weird and strange because it didn't run the same Basic dialect that my TRS-80 did, so I was continuosly frustrated with it because I didn't understand why. I must have been 5 or 6 at the time.