HACKER Q&A
📣 rosetremiere

Signal dropping support for my (very much working) iPhone 6: what now?


I recall already having to use an iphone 6 instead of an iphone 4 to be able to use signal at all a few years ago. Now I got a banner telling me that support will be dropped in mid August.

I feel this is a very stupid move: it is probably true security is harder to guarantee with old devices, but whatsapp/telegram support them without problem, and the "durability" aspect should count for something in their decision-process…

What do people around here recommend doing? Taking the networking effect into account, pushing people to something like matrix will probably be quite hard…


  👤 gregjor Accepted Answer ✓
Either get a new phone or don't use Signal. You already know the answer. Of course it would be nice if companies supported old hardware, operating systems, and applications forever, but that's not the world we live in. Neither Apple nor Signal will give any attention to the desires of a tiny niche they aren't profiting from.

👤 kstenerud
The last update for iphone 6 was ios 12.5.7 in January. ios 12 is now an unsupported operating system as far as Apple is concerned.

What wouldn't make sense would be to spend resources to continue supporting an unsupported operating system with an imperceptible market share.

The iphone 6 had a good run (2014-2023), but it's time to upgrade.


👤 hayst4ck
Part of being in Apple's ecosystem is being subject to their deprecation schedule. Apple is a luxury product, they market themselves as a luxury product, and not supporting old devices allows them to focus on what makes them a luxury product (innovation) rather than what doesn't (supporting older models).

I think the idea that matrix will solve your problems is not very well thought out. If anything supporting effectively deprecated devices is a poor security stance. Matrix, from what I can tell, is complicated and complexity is the opposite of security.

I know I am not going to make you feel unreasonable by saying this, but I think you are being unreasonable.


👤 mPReDiToR
I dumped Signal when they dropped SMS. It no longer meets my use case.

Upgrade your phone, get an Android, stop using Signal. I think that covers your options.