HACKER Q&A
📣 neotrope

Anyone else see GPT-4 access as unfair?


GPT-3.5 and GPT-4 are worlds apart and having access to GPT-4 (API) is a competitive advantage.

Like countless others, I've been on the waitlist forever, and seeing other companies get access to GPT-4 means my project is on hold while they're moving ahead.

Am I the only one who sees this as an unfair practice by OpenAI?


  👤 halfjoking Accepted Answer ✓
Yes - it should be everyone gets access, and they rate limit based on how much demand they could support. If that means everyone only gets 3 requests per day for GPT4, then so be it. That would be fair.

It's disappointing since Sama was a part of YC which does seem to care about merit and "fairness." So you'd hope he'd support the same principals to "support the little guy" and give everyone a shot at having the best tools.

At least GPT4 isn't good enough to use something like AutoGPT to actually be useful at self-developing large portions of software. Once AI is that good, API access will be critical. Entire infrastructure and first-mover advantage could be dependent on API access at that time... there would be AI pipelines that wouldn't have been possible months ago that a highly intelligent AI model could see to use instantly and build out in a day. Imagine if your competitor has access and you don't in that AI future.


👤 Workaccount2
They have no obligation to be fair.

👤 dragonwriter
You mean, the API access that is explicitly prioritized by how much free labor you provide to OpenAI?

I don’t think “fair” is even part of the idea.


👤 neerd
Weird, I got API access pretty much next day and I’m just a solo dev playing around with it for personal projects.

👤 llamaLord
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft is just farming the wait list for the best ideas so they can build them while you're waiting and then beat you to market.

Sounds like something they would do.


👤 jerpint
The original announcement of GPT4 included a list of companies that had already integrated GPT4 to their product, it’s a totally unfair competitive advantage

👤 chatmasta
I don't have GPT-4, but I thought it was available by default to paid subscribers. Is this not the case? Or is there a waitlist to even become a paid subscriber?

Also, does anyone know if Copilot is using GPT-4? I assume it is.


👤 neotrope
For historical purposes, this submission was shadow banned ~30m after submission.

👤 savy91
Is it so much better? I honestly don't see that much of a difference with "good prompts" between GPT4 and GPT3.5 in chatgpt.

👤 hsn915
What waitlist? I got immediate access as soon as I paid.

👤 muttantt
Pay $20