HACKER Q&A
📣 HopenHeyHi

Abuse of Flagging and Downvotes on HN


Hi all,

I have repeatedly observed a very clear pattern where people abuse flagging and downvotes in a bad faith censorious and outright hostile and hateful manner.

Furthermore, it doesn't stop with one comment being buried for wrong think, rather the down voters promptly go through your recent comment history and flag arbitrary unrelated things. Completely mundane things, uncontroversial things, comments that were up for days with no ill will from anyone and had plenty of upvotes are suddenly flagged. Not subtle at all.

I believe this sort of behavior is not appropriate/healthy and will eventually kill the community. My question is whether you have observed similar things, please share your personal experience and opinions on this matter.

My suggestion is to show a public list of users who go on such flagging sprees.


  👤 maxbond Accepted Answer ✓
I'd encourage you to spend some time reading dang's comment history. I think it makes the guidelines and the reasons for them very clear.

https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=dang

I've read your comment history and I can see you do get a lot of flags. I recall vouching for one of your comments a while ago. But I think you have a habit of speaking provocatively in a way that attracts flags, and that most of them violate the guidelines in ways you're probably not aware of. I don't know if you're aware that dang is the admin here, but he did bring this up to you recently.


👤 andrewfromx
You gotta let go and learn to love getting down voted. I look at my HN points as a bank account. It goes up and it goes down. I spend the money I have in there on the freedom to say whatever I really think. It would be so boring if my bank account only went up up up. The up down up down cycle is life.

👤 troydavis
Per https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html, email hn@ycombinator.com. Link to the specific comments that you think were flagged in bad faith.

👤 gregjor
I’ve had the downvoting spree happen to me a couple of times. But I don’t agree with you because preventing downvotes/flagging, or identifying users who appear to downvote in bad faith, will just spiral into worse behavior. HN isn’t perfect but it’s better than the alternatives.

My HN karma doesn’t mean anything. Losing a few points now and then to a person with too much time on their hands doesn’t bother me.


👤 wsgeorge
Somewhat ironic that this post is flagged.

No community is perfect, and HN has its biases which turn ugly when posts about certain things show up. Best to assume it's humans being human and ignore it. I've found that to be a good strategy.


👤 warrenm
A month ago user O__________O complained about the same thing - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35230366

And I'll tell you the same thing I told them - a 'flag' is a form of 'downvote' (you can dislike this fact, but it doesn't change the fact)

No one is required to vote

No one is required to explain their vote

No one is required to vote like you do

No one is required to explain their vote to you


👤 warrenm
>My suggestion is to show a public list of users who go on such flagging sprees.

Vote history is not visible that I've ever seen - what makes you think you're going to encourage the community by making their voting histories public?


👤 warrenm
Curious - how have you "repeatedly observed a very clear pattern" in just 29 days?