Has anyone gone back to boring technology (ex: Java/Spring)?

Question

There are different uses for different tools, I understand that.I'm just wondering if anyone got framework/buzzword fatigue and switched back to a less bleeding edge, and more boring tech stacks?I'm trying to see if anyone has consciously done this and how they feel about that. This might be a fleeting thought for me given the release of Java 20.

mostlysimilar · Accepted Answer

Ruby on Rails continues to be stable and productive, despite what the detractors on the Internet would have you believe.

AlexITC · Answer

While Scala isn't as boring as Java, I commonly work with PlayFramework which is our version for boring technology, it gets the job done, it is well-documented, not as nice as other libraries but it is rare to find an unsupported use case.I have had to deal with html templates in Scala and Rust, to my surprise, I'm enjoying going back to these boring web apps.

mobilio · Answer

PHP - good mix between speed and scalability. Boring but with combination of SQLite or MySQL can be hosted cheap everywhere.

karmakaze · Answer

Java I could go back to. Spring (or more specifically Hibernate) I have no intention to use again. It's a 20 year old solution to a 1990s problem.

dieselgate · Answer

&ldquo;Boring&rdquo; technology isn&rsquo;t boring if you&rsquo;re using it for the first time. Still get a kick out of playing old video games and seeing &ldquo;19xx&rdquo; or something on the screen and it&rsquo;s the first time I&rsquo;ve ever played it

Lokalpod · Answer

I have settled on Go for all and any backend work and sveltekit for the UI. Over the last six or seven years have worked with many different technologies.
It is super easy to work with svelte (mostly typescript + html/css and a few svelte specific things) and Go has a nice balance between productivity and high performance. Both are super easy to deploy.
Not sure if that’s “boring” enough but I’ve done everything from pre official support angular 2 SSR to react, microservices and micro front ends. I just prefer simplicity and contracts.

preordained · Answer

Do Clojure, so I use Java (directly anyhow) sometimes...through the bars of a cell where I keep it in my attic. Despite that, I'm not big on chasing frameworks or trends, and I think plenty of the community is that way (Rich Hickey himself has described the language as somewhat being for old programmers who are tired of it all). I'm not sure I could go back full-time to a curly brace language, though.

factorialboy · Answer

Django. It is easily the most productive technology for me to build small to medium scale web apps.Not mucking around with containers and K8s either. An optimized VM can go a long way.

_448 · Answer

Yes, I have gone back to C and C++ :) Using Wt[0], FoundationDB[1] and gRPC C++[2] for my side project. One thing to rule them all :)
[0] https://webtoolkit.eu
[1] https://www.foundationdb.org
[2] https://grpc.io

koevet · Answer

I struggle to understand what do you mean with "boring" technology. For me, what could be boring is a project or a "vertical". I have of course preferences around which language or framework to use, but I wouldn't label a techology boring: rather unproductive or complicated or not suited for the task.

devKnight · Answer

I'm kinda getting bored of JS/react/vue/express, thinking of learning golang and microservices

cableshaft · Answer

Java/Spring is being used for the backend for a client at work. But it also uses Azure DevOps and Kubernetes and Docker and Terraform and React and all those other fun things, so it's not so 'boring' in other ways.

rozenmd · Answer

I've been building products on React, Node, and Postgres since 2016 - nice to not be the only one on the internet with a problem (I worked for a startup using elixir, this was a common occurrence back then)

OsintOtter69 · Answer

I went and got a flip phone and trashed my Iphone. So, Yeah i guess. Feels great by the way.

lurker919 · Answer

Had my flings with the young and exciting frameworks, but I've matured now - my home will always be with a reliable stable spouse like java :)

RoddyEmily · Answer

I've gone to ocaml and never looked back to do java

leros · Answer

I've stayed pretty boring. I went from Java/Spring to Typescript/Express.I appreciate using a single language between my backend and frontend.

exabrial · Answer

Yes.Java (Latest LTS), Tomcat, EclipseLink, Apache ActiveMQ, CDI (via Apache TomEE), and JSF.Working to try to do the same thing on Quarkus: ActiveMQ, CDI, JSF.

peruvian · Answer

I'm working on a Django app where most of the frontend is old school Django templates with some JS on top. Kinda comfy.

mbowen_ivajob4u · Answer

My team and I just placed a new full stack dev team in a start-up with this tech stack:
- Next.js, Vercel, Node.js, Java (Spring Boot) - JavaScript, Tailwind, React, Angular - Microservices, REST APIs - Docker, Nginx, Postgresql - AWS - EC2, S3, RDS, Lambda, VPC, IAM - Docker, GitLab, Github
Everyone seems to be enjoying it so far! mbowen_ivajob4u

aprdm · Answer

I've never left !

dith3r · Answer

using vertx and kotlin for 7 years. still entertaining.

Has anyone gone back to boring technology (ex: Java/Spring)?

Ruby on Rails continues to be stable and productive, despite what the detractors on the Internet would have you believe.

PHP - good mix between speed and scalability. Boring but with combination of SQLite or MySQL can be hosted cheap everywhere.

Java I could go back to. Spring (or more specifically Hibernate) I have no intention to use again. It's a 20 year old solution to a 1990s problem.

“Boring” technology isn’t boring if you’re using it for the first time. Still get a kick out of playing old video games and seeing “19xx” or something on the screen and it’s the first time I’ve ever played it

Django. It is easily the most productive technology for me to build small to medium scale web apps.
Not mucking around with containers and K8s either. An optimized VM can go a long way.

Yes, I have gone back to C and C++ :) Using Wt[0], FoundationDB[1] and gRPC C++[2] for my side project. One thing to rule them all :)
[0] https://webtoolkit.eu
[1] https://www.foundationdb.org
[2] https://grpc.io

I'm kinda getting bored of JS/react/vue/express, thinking of learning golang and microservices

Java/Spring is being used for the backend for a client at work. But it also uses Azure DevOps and Kubernetes and Docker and Terraform and React and all those other fun things, so it's not so 'boring' in other ways.

I've been building products on React, Node, and Postgres since 2016 - nice to not be the only one on the internet with a problem (I worked for a startup using elixir, this was a common occurrence back then)

I went and got a flip phone and trashed my Iphone. So, Yeah i guess. Feels great by the way.

Had my flings with the young and exciting frameworks, but I've matured now - my home will always be with a reliable stable spouse like java :)

I've gone to ocaml and never looked back to do java

I've stayed pretty boring. I went from Java/Spring to Typescript/Express.
I appreciate using a single language between my backend and frontend.

Yes.
Java (Latest LTS), Tomcat, EclipseLink, Apache ActiveMQ, CDI (via Apache TomEE), and JSF.
Working to try to do the same thing on Quarkus: ActiveMQ, CDI, JSF.

I'm working on a Django app where most of the frontend is old school Django templates with some JS on top. Kinda comfy.

I've never left !

using vertx and kotlin for 7 years. still entertaining.

Has anyone gone back to boring technology (ex: Java/Spring)?

Ruby on Rails continues to be stable and productive, despite what the detractors on the Internet would have you believe.

PHP - good mix between speed and scalability. Boring but with combination of SQLite or MySQL can be hosted cheap everywhere.

Java I could go back to. Spring (or more specifically Hibernate) I have no intention to use again. It's a 20 year old solution to a 1990s problem.

“Boring” technology isn’t boring if you’re using it for the first time. Still get a kick out of playing old video games and seeing “19xx” or something on the screen and it’s the first time I’ve ever played it

Django. It is easily the most productive technology for me to build small to medium scale web apps.Not mucking around with containers and K8s either. An optimized VM can go a long way.

Yes, I have gone back to C and C++ :) Using Wt[0], FoundationDB[1] and gRPC C++[2] for my side project. One thing to rule them all :)[0] https://webtoolkit.eu[1] https://www.foundationdb.org[2] https://grpc.io

I'm kinda getting bored of JS/react/vue/express, thinking of learning golang and microservices

Java/Spring is being used for the backend for a client at work. But it also uses Azure DevOps and Kubernetes and Docker and Terraform and React and all those other fun things, so it's not so 'boring' in other ways.

I've been building products on React, Node, and Postgres since 2016 - nice to not be the only one on the internet with a problem (I worked for a startup using elixir, this was a common occurrence back then)

I went and got a flip phone and trashed my Iphone. So, Yeah i guess. Feels great by the way.

Had my flings with the young and exciting frameworks, but I've matured now - my home will always be with a reliable stable spouse like java :)

I've gone to ocaml and never looked back to do java

I've stayed pretty boring. I went from Java/Spring to Typescript/Express.I appreciate using a single language between my backend and frontend.

Yes.Java (Latest LTS), Tomcat, EclipseLink, Apache ActiveMQ, CDI (via Apache TomEE), and JSF.Working to try to do the same thing on Quarkus: ActiveMQ, CDI, JSF.

I'm working on a Django app where most of the frontend is old school Django templates with some JS on top. Kinda comfy.

I've never left !

using vertx and kotlin for 7 years. still entertaining.

Django. It is easily the most productive technology for me to build small to medium scale web apps.
Not mucking around with containers and K8s either. An optimized VM can go a long way.

Yes, I have gone back to C and C++ :) Using Wt[0], FoundationDB[1] and gRPC C++[2] for my side project. One thing to rule them all :)
[0] https://webtoolkit.eu
[1] https://www.foundationdb.org
[2] https://grpc.io

I've stayed pretty boring. I went from Java/Spring to Typescript/Express.
I appreciate using a single language between my backend and frontend.

Yes.
Java (Latest LTS), Tomcat, EclipseLink, Apache ActiveMQ, CDI (via Apache TomEE), and JSF.
Working to try to do the same thing on Quarkus: ActiveMQ, CDI, JSF.