HACKER Q&A
📣 etewiah

What is the most disappointing thing someone you respect has said?


I just saw someone I really respect say "the amount of intelligence in the universe doubles every 18 months"

I deliberately won't say who. Please don't say if you know (I don't want to make this sound like an attack) but it got me curious to know other examples of smart people saying something not smart.


  👤 codingdave Accepted Answer ✓
People mis-speak, whether they are smart or not. Someone may have a good idea that they phrase badly and fail to communicate what they mean. Or a bad idea, because we're all human. That doesn't invalidate their intelligence or their value as a person. It is fair to call it out when someone is off... but that should not nullify your respect for them.

To that end, I'm not sure seeking out examples of times when people said something badly is productive.


👤 elmerfud
I can't think of any answer off hand but I'm not sure why your disappointed in that statement. A lot of it is matter of perspective. Knowledge is doubling at a much faster rate.

https://www.industrytap.com/knowledge-doubling-every-12-mont...

This is from 2013. Sometimes people use knowledge and intelligence interchangeably so it does come down to perspective. As far as we can currently know we humans are the only intelligence in the universe, and we're the ones amassing knowledge. That rate has been increasing at incredible rate.

So I'm not sure the source of your disappointment as this seems like a largely true statement. What makes me sad is we have a massive percentage of people who are mind numbed Snapchat narcissists who fail at, not just trying to be part of this amassing and utilization of knowledge, but don't even realize it's happening around them and it's what's enabled them carry the whole of human knowledge in a rectangle that to them is nothing more than selfie device to watch and record TikTok videos.


👤 corobo
Expect disappointment and you'll never be disappointed.

Mine was my first realisation that confidence doesn't equal knowledge. I had asked a science teacher back in high school if it were theoretically possible to see light from around the big bang sort of time of the universe.

"No, that's not possible." - no corrections, no qualifiers, no reasoning why it wasn't possible. Just "no". Scientific af.

Hubble existed and the James Webb telescope was in the planning phases at the time.. If you can't do, teach.


👤 austin-cheney
There are so many, but this one is very recent:

Performance is not important, mentioned when a popular framework was proven slow

I recently learned that consciousness is negatively correlated with intelligence which may explain why so many seemingly intelligent people cannot make decisions or build things on their own.

Edit: my phone auto corrected conscientiousness to conscience.


👤 throwawayffffas
A bit of a tangent. Don't "respect" people dude, they will only let you down, the biggest thing to realize is that we are all mostly dumb. Respect people around you, as in treat them with respect. Don't idolize people.

👤 DarrenDev
Not so much people I respect, as people who have had a public persona I was aware of for decades, who suddenly out themselves as being a little less than tolerant, sometimes bordering on the bat-shit-crazy spectrum.

Recent examples are Van Morrison and his vocal opinions on Covid measures a couple of years ago, and Scott Adams of Dilbert fame only a few days ago.

I wonder sometimes how much of it is down to dotty old age and approaching dementia, and if you should forgive people for that.

But it's disappointing nonetheless.


👤 bitwize
I once saw that Imogen Heap was captivated by the film The Reason I Jump, based on the book. The book is real chicken-soup-for-the-soul stuff about autism ostensibly by a Japanese kid with the condition. But here's the thing: it was entirely dictated by the technique of facilitated communication, a pseudoscientific and highly controversial technique wherein a person, a facilitator, guides and supports the hand of the autist pointing at a keyboard. The technique tends to produce words coming from the facilitator rather than the autist.

I was and am willing to give Ms. Heap the benefit of the doubt, as she may have been ignorant of the issues surrounding the book, film, and FC in general. But for a brief moment I had a flash feeling of "oh no, not this again", as there was a bit of controversy surrounding Sia and her weird little autism-themed film, Music.


👤 hirundo
If you don't at least occasionally arrive at heterodox conclusions ... and disappoint someone ... then you don't think for yourself. Therefore if the people you respect don't occasionally say disapointing things then you should expand your respect to include more original thinkers.

And if people you disrespect don't occasionally say worthwhile things you're probably discounting their words without really hearing them.


👤 tomduncalf
Quite a few musicians I respect going down the NFT pushing route was a bit disappointing, though I kinda get it that they saw their chance for a payday…

👤 rado
Filmmaker Wong Kar Wai, who botched his recent remasters, and explained it with nonsense like

“No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it’s not the same river and he’s not the same man.”

“It is impossible for us to dance exactly like we did before. What has really changed is not the films but the man on the floor.”

and “The point of our restoration is not to confront or resolve any problems, but to keep the tree that holds these whispers well and healthy.”

Sigh.


👤 jasonpeacock
Their response when I was appealing to them for help in fixing an org problem:

> I know it's my job to be a leader but it's too much work because the org is dysfunctional, so I'm only focusing on my own thing.

Dude, you're part of the problem :( Maybe you shouldn't be a leader if you're not willing to do the hard things.


👤 throwawaysalome
"We're making another Indy sequel." -- Steven Spielberg

👤 Pigalowda
You don’t like Altman’s statement for what reason? Because he said “universe” rather than “world” or other terrestrial synonym?

👤 lampshades
I really don’t understand why people are so bothered by Sam’s statement.

👤 polotics
Yanis Varoufakis playing at military expert, and for the evil side at that, was an utter horrible disappointment. Many lefties like eg. Jacobin mag also voicing inanities related to the Putin war. Luckily the Musks and Thiels are still immediately vile and obviously misleading with slime on first listen, no disappointment there.

👤 mamonster
Hmm, recently probably when Taleb went on a rant about how the (current Western) system is the best it ever was (not sure if he was talking about this in relation to Putin or Covid conspiracy theories, 90% certain one of the two) because you have unparalleled transparency in comparison to what was previously available.

Sure, the system IS very transparent, but at the same time path to action is vastly reduced. Overton window may be wider but for (most people) the glass is now bulletproof.


👤 canadianfella
Showing my teacher a drawing I made when I was a kid. “You’ll grow out of it”.

👤 username3
Sam Altman

> a new version of moore's law that could start soon:

> the amount of intelligence in the universe doubles every 18 months

https://twitter.com/sama/status/1629880171921563649

> He means the AI is going to continue to get smarter and smarter, boosting intelligence throughout the universe.