HACKER Q&A
📣 samstave

Any HNers have air quality sensors near-ish 'East Palistine, Ohio'?


Anyone have better data than whats being reported, be it air, fish, frogs, birds, livestock?


  👤 bfrog Accepted Answer ✓
This sort of investigation probably needs something more like a gas chromatography mass spectrometry machine. I don’t think a run of the mill set of air quality sensors is going to tell anyone which toxic nastiness is in the air /water there.

Collecting samples and getting them analyzed by a lab should be possible though.


👤 colechristensen
Air quality sensors probably won’t get you the information you want. The ones available will be able to detect small particulate, indoor gases like CO or CO2 which wouldn’t be the issue, or very vague broad swaths of compounds lumped together which again are only relevant at high concentrations achieved only in enclosed spaces.

If there is something going on the most likely culprit is something specific with toxic effects at quite low doses that just wouldn’t be detectable without very specialized equipment (5,6,7? Digit costs)


👤 CSMastermind
I grew up there and my entire immediate and extended family lives in the area or within a 20 mile radius of the area.

What type of sensors and data would you like to see?

Assuming it's not cost prohibitive I'm happy to get a bunch of sensors set up and recording data.


👤 Accujack
Read the EPA reports that have been posted... it contains the data from the static and roaming air quality testing. It shows that there are pm2.5 particulates around in slightly elevated amounts, but none of the chemicals from the train.

I have yet to see any hard evidence of things like chemicals from the train being detected in ground water or streams, and I have seen no evidence of anyone dying from the big, scary cloud, nor of any chemicals from the train being present in that, either.

There's a huge amount of conspiracy BS being pushed on this, so be sure to think critically about anything someone tells you about the event.


👤 01arjuna
I have an Raspberry Pi 3 with an attached Enviro+ from Pimoroni with the PMS5003 Particulate Matter Sensor. I am about 60 miles South/SouthEast and I have been curious if my device would pick anything up from it. I don't have it outside, but in my basement in my office of a 1953 built home. I am personally more concerned about the water though. We draw our water from a lake as the local reservoir. I never really dug into getting the readings and posting them somewhere for this device/sensors.

👤 mdmglr

👤 jcrash
Not as bad as the Ohio incident, but they just had a big chemical (Nitric Acid) spill on the highway near my work (Tucson, AZ). Everything shut down.

They say 1mi is the danger zone, but we've had 20mph winds this week. I'm 15 miles away, think I'll be OK?


👤 adamredwoods
The EPA is releasing sampled air data here:

https://response.epa.gov/site/site_profile.aspx?site_id=1593...

You can request air sampling, they have contact information on that site.


👤 mamabear19
I have a purple air I'm setting up in ne Ohio for a few days while I'm in town. But it is intended for I side copd air particulates from natural gas.

👤 roland35
Anecdotal, but I live near Akron and haven't noticed any change here. I am upwind though!

👤 yuppie_scum
Check at city-data, they pull air quality stats.