HNers who train from home using minimal weights or equipments, can you suggest a path for me.
I am looking for some hints on:
1. What is the bare minimum balanced routine I can start with?
2. How long should I stick to it before I see or feel actual results from it?
3. Diet? Eggs are easily available for me.
4. A bit about your journey. How you started and how have you progressed on parameters of strength, routine, size, energy, etc.
P.S: I came across this youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Kboges where he suggests that to gain strength and general fitness you can train daily with 3 movements but not to failure. Is it possible?
My goals are to have enough muscle and strength so that I don't get tired doing chores lifting something for my household. I want this to go far into my old age so that I don't fall and spend my final years in a nursing home bed.
2. Keep in mind that most influencers, actors, athletes, and trainers have gained their physique through genetic luck, drugs, unhealthy eating, camera tricks, lack of balance in life, and extremely hard work guided by one-on-one coaching. It might take you 12 months to look muscular if you're a normal person doing a normal routine. Good strength routines will have you making regular small increases in resistance, so you will see constant small progress in strength on a daily/weekly/round basis from the beginning!
3. Spend a week tracking what you eat in an app like Cronometer. Those results will guide you on how best to modify your diet: the default macro/micronutrient targets in the app aren't a bad place to start. It's often recommended to increase protein and calorie intake above those targets if you're trying to put on lots of muscle.
Finally the sibling comment about goals is a great one. I'd suggest your #1 goal should be to not get injured, as injury will prevent you from achieving your other goals (and is very common when starting new sports/activities!)
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/bodyweightfitness/wiki/routines/bwf...
i really like www.startbodyweight.com
pretty detailed and simple for someone like me - who's gone to the gym, but not gained from it, because of not sticking to a programme, and importantly, managing progression.
Startbodyweight is awesome because it starts from absolute couch potato.
One negative though - is 2 things required to setup:
a)somewhere to do chin ups b)somewhere solid to use thick nylon rope (for pulling exercise)
Start with the actual program, and work on the diet as you go. But look into balanced diets - eat eggs, nuts, chicken, (red meat ocassionally), fish, lots of leafy greens, cold pressed natural oils.
Avoid sugar.
Make time for this stuff - if you're new to it - it will start by being a drag, eventually you will crave it.
I started HATING exercise, and hating early rising.
I start my morning with a top shelf scandinavian light roast (high in caffeine) - then my training session, shower, and big breakfast.
Cant think of a better way to start my morning! Gets me feeling focused and ready to attack the day.
Also try not to compare your own progress with that of others, we're all on our own journeys!
Try to get some pulling motions (rows, pullups etc) into the mix as well as your pushing motions (i.e. pushups). Your posture will thank you!
I started with some simple calisthenics (pushups, squats, etc) during covid, and started going to the gym when things opened up again. I recently discovered that none of my blazers fit around my shoulders and chest anymore. It was a fun surprise, but it took a couple of years to get there.
To pseudoquote the jogger from BoJack Horseman: "It gets easier. Every day, it gets a little easier. But you gotta do it [a couple of times per week]. That's the hard part. But it does get easier."
I don't have a pull-up bar because I don't see the point: I couldn't for the life of my lift my own bodyweight; I'm first using the TRX to build up some strength.
My big problem, as always, is discipline. I haven't done anything in months. I need to restart. The personal was rather expensive and I wasn't entirely happy with him, but it does help a lot with the discipline.
A combination of vertical and horizontal push and pull compound lifts will give you the biggest bang for your buck while maintaining a balanced physique.
Vertical push - Squat & Overhead Press
Vertical pull - Deadlift & Pull-ups
Horizontal push - Pushup or Bench Press
Horizontal pull - Bent over Rows or Bodyweight Rows
I use kettlebells at home and have been repeating this workout playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhu1QCKrfgPUU1z33ILva...
Kettlebell is great because you can do a full workout with a single piece of equipment.
If you dread working out, then just make it easier. 2 kg is better than 0 kg, 5 minutes is better than 0 minutes.
Don't try to get everything figured out before you start. You will need to figure out what works for you, and good habits build upon each other.
So start off with just something you really can keep up for a month, then consider upgrades to it.
Beginners gains are huge. Your first year will see huge improvements. Especially in strength.
I recommend Allan Thrall on YouTube and AthleanX. Once you're past the beginners gains, Smolov is amazing at increasing strength. I've not found another program like it.
I lifted barbell only. Got my deadlift to 200kg, bench to 140kg, squat to 140kg.
It took about 8 years of lifting 1 to 3 times a week. Very casual and you could easily do much better than me.
Note I couldn't do a single push up in one of my gym classes at school.
Those usually have gyms with all the equipment and trainers. What you need the most is a routine and motivation. Start with an embarrassing whole body photoshoot from all angles to track progress. Eat 2x more by adding protein to your diet, make sure you arent lactose intolerant. Train 2-3 times a week rotating body sections. Keep a logbook. Dont forget the legs, ass is your biggest muscle, squats will make your whole body stronger.
I’ve weight-trained for decades and switched up my routine during the pandemic. I have only a small room available at home for this, which I also use as an office and music studio. So, not a lot of space.
I bought a pair of Bowflex SelectTech 552s (https://www.bowflex.com/selecttech/552/100131.html), a stand for them, a bench, a stability ball, and mini loop bands. Then I started using the Fitbod app (https://fitbod.me) to take the guesswork out of my routine.
This has been great. Fitbod will gradually ramp up resistance, vary your workouts, target different muscles based on recovery, and adjust your weight levels based on your performance. Then you can use the 552s to select the right weight it recommends.
Anyway, your mileage may vary, but I’ve been very happy with this setup for years.
My preferred style of "everyday training" is strength training every few days, cardio most non-strength days, and walking a minimum number of steps every day (cardio counting towards it).
Push + pull + lower is generally enough to get fit and healthy, yes. It could be a good idea to split it more like push / pull / lower front / lower back, because things like squats tend to work the quads way more than the hamstrings or glutes.
You Are Your Own Gym: The Bible of Bodyweight Exercises -- Mark Lauren
I actually read its German translation (AFAICT) called "Fit ohne Geräte".
The book starts with some useful insights about basic motivation and eating habits.
Following its training program I went from slightly overweight to "normal" / slightly muscular. I'm in my late 30s and can do all sorts of sports. Lifting my girlfriend comes easy.
Bonus points: First bodyweight training means that you need no extra gear and second there is little time investment of ~40m per day on 4 days a week.
Hope this helps. :)
There are many online resources for TRX exercises and workouts, so I won't expand on that here unless otherwise requested. That plus a backpack you can load up with heavy things can take you pretty far.
I second the other comments that have mentioned to avoid sugar. Different people may react differently, but I find my general wellbeing and discipline to have had a strong inverse correlation with my sugar consumption.
Regarding pushing to failure or not: I personally have found success pushing to failure (depending on the workout, on the last set at least), and, in general, I would recommend this approach. Likelihood of injury will increase as you push closer to failure, so remember to stretch, warm up, and focus on form. For some people, there may be a mental benefit to pushing to failure as well.
1. Get one standard 1 inch dumbbell (or 2, but 1 is already enough for a start) with matching 1 inch plates, e.g. a pair of 5, 2.5 and 1.25 kg to start with. You can add a dipping belt for weighted pullups.
2. Optionally, a kettlebell bar for the same weights, something like this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00B1DO6CS it will need more weight plates sooner
For your actual questions:
1. With the above the easiest to train are arms: overhead press, curls, rows, arnold presses. On a bed maybe skull crushers for abs, maybe some basic deadlifts and squats. The latter need much more weight but it's a start.
2. You will notice your strength increasing in a few weeks and might see something in the mirror after a month or two.
3. Protein mixed with milk in a shaker cup is the easiest. You can add peanut butter for extra calories if you need it. Only other supplement I recommend is creatine monohydrate, ideally before a workout.
4. I think you will eventually want to join a gym and do the "big three": bench press, squats and deadlifts. It's much more fun too. I got to 120, 140 and 220 kg on those.
I'm started (starting from nothing) :
Day A: 1-dumbbell (db)drop squat, 3x12/15-FF 2-One Arm db press, 3x12/15-FF 3-Chest support row, 3x12/15-FF 4-BW Slit squat 3xFF each
Roll ups, 3xFF Suitcase carry, just, try 3 times I still don't understand that too much
Day B:
1-Pull Trhough 3x12/15-FF 2-Reverse lunge 3x12/15-FF 3-Pushups 3xFF 4-Lat pull down 3x12/-FF
Again roll ups and suitcase carry
A and B on different days, with 1 day to rest.
Get some weights (10 lb maybe, try for yourself) to do A1/2/3, get an elastic band (comes in different resistance) for B1/4.
After 2 weeks I can do both exercises in one day and today I'm starting every day. Equating will train your balance and back position to work better with your bar.
You will see results in 3 months.
Don't eat just eggs, eat everything because you needs all the vitamins. Fresh vegetables, chicken, beef, pork, eggs, rice, beans, milk, etc. Talk to your nutritionist, weight yourself everyday, adjust your diet on the way.
Basically I just do kettle bell swings and pushups. I start with quick warming and stretches (a couple of minutes) then do intermittently kettlebell swings and pushups.
I train three times a week, each session lasts under 30 min. I walk around a lot daily and on a non-weight training day go for a brief jog.
This is as simple as it can be. I've gained visible musculature and have progressed to heavier kettlebells so I guess it's doing something.
I believe the strength training regimen is good for me but I haven't really analyzed it in a way that I could say it's better than some other program would be.
I’m 42 - never been very athletic and my bmi could be better, but I feel much better with some ongoing exercise regimen than without.
I'm using the "Quick and the dead" procedure by Pavel Tsatsouline. You can find references and reviews by quick googling.
Another is parallets. These aren't that big and can be used for calesthenics training like planche. These are great, but it depends on the kind of strength and physique your aiming for.
There is no need to buy any equipment. You just need some floor space.
I think starting out with some kind of program as a beginner. Is a lot better than just buying a bunch of equipment and watching a lot of random YouTube videos. You will quickly get overwhelmed.
Also maybe start focusing on a routine first for a couple of months, and then look into your diet. Doing both at the same time as a complete beginner can quickly lead to information overload.
There's no beating weights, in my opinion. Your stated goal is long-term health. I don't think you can beat the bone density benefits of free weights.
Also, in my experience, people who concoct their own fitness schemes tend to ignore bad form and unbalanced routines. There are countless dudes on Internet forums showing off their pectoral gains while ignoring their awful posture.
If you refuse to use free weights, then take yoga classes. You'll discover muscles you didn't even know you have, and you'll have your form corrected by the instructor.
Get a pull-up bar. Find a calisthenics workout.
> 2. How long should I stick to it before I see or feel actual results from it?
See results: A year.
Feel results: Depending on your starting point, much sooner.
> 3. Diet? Eggs are easily available for me.
There are so many ways to go here.
> 4. A bit about your journey.
I never exercised until I was 18. Then did martial arts, weight lifting, crossfit.
I'm 37 now and exercise every day. Usually a crossfit wod warmup followed by heavy lifting (I aim for 5x5 when I'm not doing progressive overload). I'm trying to go into bodybuilding, since I think I'll never have the same chance or motivation hormonally later in life.
Depends on how much time you're willing to dedicate to exercise and diet. Serious dedication and you'll see undeniable results within a couple of months, "transformative" results after several months. On average, expect six months to a year.
Increased strength you'll feel relatively quickly. The way body fat works means that you can build muscle without really seeing the visual results right away, though.
Also, keep in mind that body building is something that takes years, if those are the kind of results that you're looking for.
Personally I’ve been lifting since 2020 (for aesthetics :P) but it’s been amazing for my mental and physical health. I started with some 20lbs dumbbells and achieved a lot with those. I’d say get a pair of something you can lift but can barely do 8 reps with
Also a lot parks have cool gym gear you can use for free, monkey bars being quite fun (once should strength is good enough)
But alas I joined a gym. I love having control over the weight to the exact kilo and the variety, and also the social aspect and space separation for motivation.
Given that you want to be good at lifting stuff in the household: In my opinion there's nothing better than the deadlift. It doesn't require anything more than a barbell and plates, which doesn't take up much space. You can buy those used and most probably sell them at the same price later, as they won't lose value.
I had a pull up bar by my bathroom door. every time I walked through the bathroom door I did at least 10 pull ups.
in the morning I would do ladder push ups. I would start with 20 then do (n-1). to I got to 0.
sleep a lot too, if you gonna recover. volume is key.
https://www.amazon.com/Overcoming-Gravity-Systematic-Gymnast...
and the corresponding subreddit
i'm figuring we're about the same in spirit given we're on HN and talking home workouts.
i loved programming first then calisthenics came later. now i build software for calisthenics and train in las vegas with the best in the world.
go hard, man, go have fun.
2. As others mention r/bodyweightfitness's routine has a routine and progression to follow. The sub is also a good place to ask questions on the journey. I enjoy having goals of personal delight alongside it, for me handstands.
3. Others will have better diet advice. I aim to have general blood tests at least once a year. Address deficiencies. Beyond that journaling what you eat and when can help you learn what you're consuming and give you clear reasons for adjusting your eating habits.
Eating a plant-first diet, though not strictly exclusive, I've had trouble with maintaining iron levels, until I remember to supplement with B12, and B*complex vitamins alongside the iron. Since fixing that 2 weeks ago, I've done spontaneous workouts often, feeling the desire to workout and just going.
4. For physical fitness, practical capability and physical resilience drive my goals. Fitness and workouts also aid mental capability and mental health. I track VO2 max as a metric I can't game, but that's a reliable indicator of current health.
I would encourage you to stress yourself in the achieving of chores. Push yourself harder than you know you can do, or have done before. Aim to tire yourself doing them, and you will grow stronger. Learn to enjoy the strain, lean into more, and you'll find the tasks you do get easier and easier—-you may even take on harder tasks. Don't aim for ease and happiness, aim for challenge and purpose, ease and happiness will take care of themselves.
I recommend approaching fitness and nutrition as multivariate problems of finding activities, habits, that work for you, that advance you toward your goal, and that you can train, especially as a game. That way when life forces changes in your habits, you don't need to change goals, only find a new way to pursue that same goal under new constraints.
You have clear goals, although they're a long way off. Simple reasons work, but it helps to have a metric to judge progress against, the more specific the better, and the more you can design in feedback, e.g. of charting your progress by hand on something you see daily, the more you can ingrain and affirm your goals. I appreciate tracking results, but I think tracking effort, workouts completed, is more valuable in the long run, than always expecting that I'll improve performance.
awb, thanks, you've helped me understand how the kettlebell workout I do checks all these boxes.
https://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/the-20-minute-beginner-kett...
COMPLETE THE FOLLOWING KETTLEBELL CIRCUIT 3 TIMES:
- 8 Halos (each side)
- 10 Goblet Squats
- 8 Overhead Presses (each side)
- 15 Kettlebell Swings
- 8 Bent Over Rows (each side)
- 6 Front Rack Reverse Lunge (per side)
Exercises
The squat is one of the best health and strength building exercises you can do. Search the web for a breakdown of why it is so beneficial. You can do a standing squat with no equipment - although I find a full-height mirror useful for noticing left/right imbalances and other mechanical problems that should be corrected. As you get stronger, and you can comfortably do a squat at least to the point where your femur is roughly parallel to the ground, you can then start holding something heavy in your hands to add weight to the exercise. Exactly where and how you hold is really up to you - and you'll find a natural position which helps you balance. For a real challenge, and some variation, you can do a one leg squat (often with a chair or something behind you to stop on). This one can be challenging.
Push-ups are great, and obviously require no equipment. Search for tips on how to start, assuming you aren't already capable of doing a single pushup with only your toes and your hands touching the ground. Keep it simple in the beginning.
Yoga is good to mix into your routine, as it will help you stretch and develop better flexibility (and balance!). You just need space and a mat, or a rug or other non-slippery but slightly soft surface.
The kettlebell swing is excellent. It requires only a kettlebell and a little space around your body. The kettlebell swing works multiple muscle groups at once, and it is also a cardio exercise. If you want to build a nice posterior, this will get you far. Search for "Kettlebell Swing Tim Ferriss" for a very clear guide. Side note - some people show and do other exercises with kettlebells which are very dangerous if you get fatigued and make a mistake. But this exercise is low risk to your body (although if you fling the kettlebell across the room, you'll have another problem :) ).
Pull-ups are good, assuming you have a tall enough doorway that you can mount a pull-up bar. There are other wall and ceiling mount versions, but in all cases you must be really sure you're mounting it in a way that it won't break while you're hanging!
Don't do sit-ups. The aforementioned exercises will build a strong core. In general, don't waste your time on isolation exercises.
Lastly, learn how to stretch, and try to stretch after the workouts. Current sports science says you shouldn't do much stretching before - especially static stretches. But regular stretching after workouts will help you get more strength building from the work you've already put in.
Diet
There's so much info on this (much of it conflicting). The general rule is to get a variety of vegetables, nuts, legumes, and other protein sources. Grains are not really necessary, especially since most of what you can get is highly processed. Protein shakes and other supplements are not necessary for 99% of people who exercise. If your diet is reasonable, you'll get adequate protein for the level of muscle repair that you need protein for.
Avoid sugar, even if you're not working out :).
My Journey
I had to take some sports class in college, so I picked weightlifting. It ended up being fun, and my teacher was good on teaching technique. So I continued on and off.
Later I went to Mark Rippetoe's gym, and he started training me. You can search the web for him, and you'll see he's quite enthusiastic.
In my 40s I had a period where I prepared to compete at the amateur level. But I also was working in finance at the time, and there was a lot of drinking and partying. That's not what you want if you want to get the most out of your workout effort. Still, I got really strong for my weight class (although I only competed on paper since I didn't reach the level I was satisfied with).
Random Observations
Once you significantly increase your strength and muscle mass, even if you quit for years you'll find it easier to get back to your previous level. It's as if the muscles have a memory about how big/strong they once were. Since I usually only workout for 2-6 months, and then life or travel throws me out for months or years, I have restarted many times. Each time I am shocked at how much strength and visible fitness I recover just after 3-4 visits at the bym.
After a couple of weeks of 2-3 workouts per week, you start to feel more energy. It's really just the beginning where it feels super hard and tiring. Later, you can get exhausted but still feel energized. And believe it or not, you can start to feel so energized and motivated that you want to workout hard every day. You don't want to do that, usually, as recovery time is as important as workout time. So don't overtrain, even if you're having a great time.
Anyone can do this stuff, and feel strong and capable and more confident. I've taught a few women and my kids. And for the ladies, don't worry that you will bulk up. That will not happen unless you are training very seriously and with significant weight.
Good luck! It's worth the effort.
(Soccer, then former middle of the pack Distance Running; then also weight training resistance training in a Weider cage with an 45lb bar and adjustable spotter bars, high pulley, low pulley, leg extension; then Bowflex; and now TotalGym and I prefer it. Lol, you watch the infomercial and you see the testimonials and you think "nobody's that happy with their without ever" and still I really do enjoy this equipment. (I have never been paid to endorse any fitness product or book.))
Calisthenics says that "time under tension" is more relevant than number of reps.
The TotalGym is a decent to good partner stretcher. "Don't slam the stack, and don't waste an opportunity to let it stretch you out"
Dance music has a higher tempo. Various apps will generate workout playlists with AFAIU a BPM ladder
The "high protein foods" part of Keto.
My understanding of Keto: if you eat too much sugar (including starchy carbs) without protein, the body learns to preferentially burn sugar and wastes the protein; so eat protein all day. We do need carbs to efficiently process protein. (And we do need fat for our brains: there is a reference DV daily value for fat for a reason. Ranch, Whole Milk, and Peanut Butter have fat.)
Omega-3s and Omega-6s would be listed under "Polyunsaturated Fats" if it were allowed to list them on the standard Nutrition Facts label instead of elsewhere on the packaging.
Omega 6:3 balance apparently affects endocannabinoid levels. Endocannabinoids help regulate diet and inflammation.
Antioxidants: Vitamins A, C, E,
Electrolytes: Water + Salt + Potassium (H20 + NaCl + K)
There are many lists of foods to eat for inflammation and inflammatory conditions.
Foods rich in anthocyanins tend to be high in nutrients; for example, blueberries, chard, and other dark leafy vegetables and fruits. Blueberry smoothie; premixed, frozen, fresh and washed with sprayed water+vinegar in a clip-on colander.
Pressure cooking is a relatively healthy way to prepare protein.
You can make a dozen hard-boiled or soft-boiled eggs with one instant pot pressure cooker in ~20 minutes and with less water than conventional boiling.
50g/day of Protein is 100% of the DV for a 2000 calorie diet, when you're not trying to gain muscle mass. Bodybuilders consume at least 100g or 150g of protein a day.
Tired of e.g. tuna, eggs, beef; I learned of "The No Meat Athlete Cookbook: Whole Food, Plant-Based Recipes to Fuel Your Workouts—and the Rest of Your Life", which has a bunch of ideas for vegan and vegetarian protein and nutrionally-balanced meals.
FWIU, vegan and vegetarian diets tend to have some common issues like e.g. magnesium deficiency.
I can't be mad at the lion for being omnivorous; but frustrated at the lion for being greedy and selfish in regards to ecology and smell. /? S tool reading infographic
Protein bars (20g: Huel, Aldi), Protein bread (10g/slice), Muscle Milk Pro (50g), Huel, Filtered water: Wide-mouth water bottles, Fish Oil (Omega-3s DHA & EPA), Olive Oil (<~380°F), spray Avocado Oil (Aldi), Peanut Butter, Whole Milk, Multigrain Cheerios over Total (in the 100% DV cereals category),
Supergrains: flax, chia, shelled hemp seed. Super grains mixed into peanut butter = $25 health food store peanut butter.
Healthy Eating Plate: Water, Fruits, Grains, Veggies, Protein. USDA Myplate: people need* Milk/Dairy (which is indeed basically impossible to create a synthetic analogue of, in terms of formula or)
Some greens have little more nutritional content than water and fiber. AFAIU, Chard is as nutritious as Spinach, which has iron (which is what Popeye eats to hopefully eventually woo Olive Oil)
Ice water diminishes appetite. Bread has filling carbs that you can eat with protein* (to stay closer to "ketosis", for example)
HIIT says don't rest for more than 15 seconds / 45 seconds between exercises / sets
My TotalGym workouts now are much more aerobic than when I started getting back to healthy and counted reps. I've put off adding more weight to the carriage bar (that certain TG models lierally support) for like a year and I've rounded-out in areas I mightn't have as a result.
I don't miss free weights, stacks / universal machines. After trying rings with nobody else around in the backyard, the TotalGym wins.
Certain (my parents') Bowflex units can't be upgraded with more or heavier tension rods; though the weighted non-inclined rowing is cool too.
Watched a few "Bodybuilding on a budget" [how to buy protein at at discount grocery store] yt videos. I usually eat cold, but Instant Pot for the win; TIL grill char is carcinogenic. With a second Instant Pot, you can do veggies separately from protein, which takes much longer to cook.