HACKER Q&A
📣 optimalsolver

How much longer will we have free access to ChatGPT?


I'm just coming up for air after being submerged in ChatGPT's world for the past several days. This system is incredible. Yes it has its flaws, but compared to everything that's come before, it's absolutely astounding.

Someone on here stated that this release feels different from previous cutting-edge AI launches because we're personally participating in the revolution, not just watching well-connected people having fun on Twitter.

This situation feels too good to last. I fear that any day now OpenAI is simply going to declare the model too dangerous for public use and take this away from us. We're one major news story away from blocked API access.

It must also be costing them a fortune to host, especially as it grows more popular. I'm guessing it's going to disappear behind a paywall soon. But even that is far better than losing it entirely. I would never have paid for GPT-3 access based on it's capabilities, but I'm pretty sure, I'd pay for ChatGPT. OpenAI, the dealer, gave me the first hit for free, and now I'm completely hooked.


  👤 thagsimmons Accepted Answer ✓
The more interesting question is how long it will be until we have open, freely available models that are competitive with closed models. It's now clear that everything is going to be disrupted by generative AI - we haven't even begun to think through the consequences. I would much rather have a world where everyone has unfettered access to these capabilities, even if the risks of societal disruption are extreme, than have them controlled by the tech princelings of Silicon Valley.

We urgently need to fund efforts to create the technology to train and publish open models in a distributed way.


👤 CamperBob2
The concern isn't so much the existing model, as impressive and promising as it is, but equitable access to future models.

When this thing gets 10x better, which it will, it will be capable of passing a Turing test against any human interlocutor. It will also pwn the field at any programming competition at that point, given further progress in areas described in the link at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33914122 .

Massive economic advantages will accrue to the company or companies who control these models -- as in "Awesome, now we can fire a bunch of expensive programmers and engineers." A few weeks ago I'd have said that was the dumbest idea ever. Now it's obviously inevitable.

The C-suite shouldn't get too cocky, though, because it's possible that the lowly "language model" will be better at running the company than they are. New funding and business models can be expected to emerge on this basis.

Things are about to change in ways that seemed absurd to expect just a few years ago, and in areas where even the most well-informed people weren't expecting it. Full access to these models will be a very big deal, almost as big a deal as ownership of money and property is now. It will be very hard to compete with entities who have that access.


👤 xs83
I think it needs more work - its very good at information retrieval but it is also returning quite a lot of noise (specifically in the coding space). I have found it invaluable for helping me out with the poorly documented and sometimes esoteric Terraform modules I work with - but it rarely produces something that doesn't have an inherent flaw in. When questioned on it - it often says "yes you are correct - that is an error" and then produces an entirely different set of code.

Its hugely impressive but I think it still has a way to go before I would pay something meaningful for it, maybe the next release will solve a lot of things once the models are retrained now the public has had time to stress test it?


👤 sergiotapia
If chatgpt cost money, I would pay for it. It's too useful for my work and one beautiful side effect I noticed is that it'll give me momentum.

That analysis paralysis you get sometimes before going on a long code run? Gone when the initial idea burst chatgpt gave me. It's a wonderful wonderful product. I'm floored at how good it is, and how useful it has become so quickly to my workflow.

I'd pay for it _today_.


👤 bjourne
Yeah, I'm also convinced that they will remove the model very soon. Thing is, it is very easy to trick the model into producing sexual or other content many or most would consider very immoral. Tell it to write whatever sick fantasy you want and despite OpenAI's best efforts to prevent it, the model will eventually comply. I happen to think that doesn't harm anyone cause it is just one person interacting with a language model, but the OpenAI team thinks otherwise.

👤 netruk44
If you're worried about losing access, and are willing to pay, you can sign up for an OpenAI account and use the OpenAI Playground with the 'text-davinci-003' model. I haven't tried using that model personally, but the model became available for public use around the same time ChatGPT came online, and they're both labeled as being in the GPT 3.5 family.

I would verify how similar the outputs are, but my trial credits have expired and I'd rather just use the free ChatGPT instead, hah.



👤 gaurangt
I have found it helpful, and we could automate some menial tasks. I am ok with paying a subscription fee as long as it is reasonable! After all, many of us have been paying for Spotify and Youtube Premium to avoid ads, and paying Notion and Airtable to simplify our lives. What's another subscription?!

👤 seydor
I dont know but i hope they close it for a (reasonably cheap) access soon. Too many people are pushing the boundaries for the giggles which leads openAi to add more and more filters and censorship which makes it less useful down the road.

👤 vimy
They’re using us to train the model even further so it will stay free. We’re giving them valuable data for free.

👤 568578
hi idk

👤 rboyd
seems like it would be a fumble.

most of the cost is probably training the model, right?

so just throw ads in the sidebar and see how much search traffic you can hijack.


👤 ano88888
i would pay for it if it is 2X better and no free alternatives

👤 gault8121
It needs to be put behind a paywall. It will unleash a massive wave of cheating among students, harming hundreds of millions of students' educations by making cheating super easy and undetectable. We age restrict cigarettes because they harm a children's health - ChatGPT beckons hundreds of millions students to go on autopilot at the expense of learning and growing. A pay wall and age verification is the moral choice. If you want to use it, spring for the $10 a month fee and pay for it.