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📣 boringg

Anyone go through Montessori education until age 12 (end of grade 6)?


Am curious what peoples experiences from Montessori transitioning to other education systems was like and how they perceived the school worked or didn't for then? Have some children decisions and looking for outside opinions! Thanks!


  👤 huevosabio Accepted Answer ✓
I did Montessori from kindergarten until grade 6 (age 12), in Mexico.

I really, really like it.

I think it reinforces the kids natural curiosity.

In middle school, my first year out of Montessori, I was shocked at how little other kids cared about learning. I remember the teacher discussing something about astronomy, and I raised my hand to comment on some fact I had read, and what followed was mockery by my peers and antipathy by the teacher. I learned quickly to never again show that I cared about learning.

This was a huge contrast with Montessori where most us were eager to learn and share what we had learned. I had friends that had built the solar system to scale out of their own initiative (in hindsight they may have taken some liberties, nonetheless).

I kept tabs more or less my classmates that came out of the Montessori, and I think they overall overperformed the non Montessori people in middle school and high school. Harder to gauge adulthood success.

I also liked that they had children of various years in the same classroom. I think it promoted knowledge sharing from the older kids to the younger ones, and it removed barriers for friendships. Some of my best friends back then where older than I was. That would never happen in middle or high school.

Finally, I don't think it's perfect. Because we were all expected to join a traditional school after grade 6, the school made some effort to make sure that the outgoing class had covered all the basic requirements (a not necessarily a simple thing since we had great liberty of pursuing what was interesting to us).

All in all, I would strongly recommend it.


👤 marcus_holmes
I was a troubled kid. Expelled from 2 kindergartens for disruptive behaviour. My parents tried Montessori, and it worked. They found out I was interested in mythology, so I apparently learned to read from the Greek myths. One of my friends was into cars, so they got him a pile of car showroom brochures and he learned to read from that.

There was a non-verbal autistic kid there, too. I played "clap-hands" with them every day, apparently the only human interaction (apart from their parents) that they had.

We moved when I was 5, and I went to a normal school after that. I don't remember much about it (all the above is stories my parents told me later). Luckily we moved to a small village where the teacher had enough time to continue giving me the personalised attention I clearly needed. Then I got shipped off to boarding school and the rest of my schooling is a dark, terrible mess of anger and violence.

It totally worked for me. I hated school, except that one.


👤 eclarkso
I went to a private Montessori school grades 3K-5, and my children have been or are in Montessori school grades 3K-6. As you might have guessed, I am a fan.

As most Montessori schools are private, my impression is that the variance in the quality of Montessori implementation varies considerably, but at a high level I have positive views of many of the same method characteristics as other comments:

  - mixed-age classes
  - learner-driven scheduling/work
  - non-test-centric evaluation
  - etc.
I would guess that most Montessori schools are smaller than schools kids transition into, which might make transitioning to other schools hard socially (it was for me, but not for my kids), but that also is highly dependent on the individual I think. Other than that, I think the method tends to yield:

  - independence in both learning/working and life in general
  - love of learning
  - kindness towards others
Things I would ask about before choosing a school:

  - are you accredited by AMS, AMI and/or SAIS?
  - are your teachers trained primarily through AMS or AMI?
  - how long have your teachers been with the school, on average?
  - where do students go after this school, and what are their outcomes (what colleges, high school honor graduates, etc.)?
  - does the school do standardized testing that is accepted by the local school district or otherwise make it easy to transition to other schools after they age out?

👤 smallstepforman
My son went through Montessori from ages 2 until 11 (finished grade 5). As with any other institution, it depends on the quality of teachers. He had 1 great teacher, one good teach, and 1 not so good teacher during his schooling. There are a couple of key factors which made us choose Montessori:

- mixed aged group classrooms. So in one year of the 3 year cycle, he is the younger child (and receives mentorship from his older buddies), and in year 3 of each cycle, he is the older buddie mentoring younger pupils. Since he has no siblings, this is a benefit to his development.

- Montessori follow the state curriculum, however they allow children to manage their own time. So if he wants to do math all day, he can, and the teacher is there more for project management and giving him assistance than to drive him by a strict 45 minute schedule. At the end of the week, he is supposed to accomplish the assigned work (regardless of which order he wants to do it in). This will help him in the future with his own project management and prioritising work loads (we hope).

- the parents sending their kids to Montessori are not of the Elitist breed. I wont explain what I mean by that here. Its better than Steiner type schools (my personal opinion).

Other than the above, there wasn't anything particular about Montessori compared regular State run schools.


👤 subpixel
My wife was a Montessori 'lifer', this topic actually came up in conversation no our second date, and our child is currently the happiest Montessori pre-k kid, perhaps ever.

As others have pointed out, the Montessori program is strong, but the execution is everything.

FWIW my wife, who is in her 40s, regularly visits her Montessori campus when visiting her hometown, and is friends with several of her classmates from the time, all of whom might give you the impression that Montessori is some sort of MLM thing to judge by their unbridled enthusiasm.

EDIT - we plan to start our child in public kindergarten, because money. Tough choice, but that $12k isn't peanuts to us.


👤 krn1p4n1c
Both my kids transitioned from Montessori to public school at 11 (grade 5) in the US. 13 and 16 now.

+ Love of learning and self-driven discovery

+ Top of class in pretty much all subjects

+ Comfortable giving presentations

+ Comfortable working in groups

+ At ease working with younger students/children and essentially mentoring them

+ Excellent handwriting

+ Respect for teachers

- Difficulty with testing that involves framing the questions in an intentionally deceptive manner

- Difficult transition to the cliques and more aggressive social dynamics of public school

- Tough for them to deal with the way many students treat their teachers and behave in general in public school

I would recommend, that a year or 2 before the kids transition they start doing standardized tests and worksheets to get acclimated to that. It's a big shock otherwise.

Overall my kids loved their time in Montessori and wish the program had gone through high school.


👤 JustAPerson
Yes, I went to a Montessori school through 6th grade (now 25 years old). I have mixed feelings about the experience.

I agree that it did well to set my up academically. I ended up going to middle/high schools that were relatively average academically, so I was pretty strong in all subjects in comparison to my peers. Ultimately I went to a very prestigious college and now work in a wonderful finance job I love. However in the many years of therapy I’ve had as an adult, I continue to identify Montessori school as a foundational contributor to my social anxiety, and ultimately my ensuing clinical depression over a lack of social life which haunted most of my college years.

My Montessori school had about 15-25 kids / class year. Some of the larger years were split into two groups with separate teachers. Every year, maybe one or two kids left to go to other schools and one or two new kids joined, but for the most part I grew up with the same core set of children for seven years. I honestly believe this had a permanent negative effect on my ability to socialize and form new friendships that I am only barely beginning to correct over a decade later. Admittedly I did not participate in any extracurricular outside of Montessori school (particularly because it had its own after-school programs). So when I transitioned to a public school for middle/high school, it was a sharp culture shock and I definitely struggled to fit in.

I think Montessori schools are worthwhile academically, but you should be careful to keep your children in contact with other kids outside the Montessori bubble.


👤 kqr
I did Montessori between ages 6 and 15, then transitioned into more traditional education for the last three years.

The main difference was how much more challenging Montessori education was. The teachers really observed me and how I performed on assignments, and they could tell when I needed more of a challenge, and assign something to me that was just at the edge of what I was able to do. In the traditional education, if I consistently just did the bare minimum expected of everyone, I was a double-plus A plus student.

I was also allowed to explore subjects that interested me in greater depth, as long as it didn't come at the expense of subjects I found less interesting. I learned a lot of English and maths in the first few years!

If I had a disagreement with a Montessori teacher, we would sit down together and have a mature conversation about it and reach some sort of mutually beneficial solution (yes, even when I was under the age of 10!) In the more traditional education, there was the assumption that if I disagreed with the teacher, I was wrong and should shut up. (I ended up not passing a few classes in the traditional school because of disagreements with the teacher – I simply stopped attending the class at that point. Didn't seem productive to go on.)

I also had a lot more spare time in the Montessori school. As long as I did well on the work assigned to me and didn't bother my classmates, the teachers didn't really care how I spent my time. I could sit in a corner and read or do long multiplication, or go out and kick around a soccer ball. I would like to think this helped me learn independence.

On the other hand, I also have a notable lack of respect for authority figures. I like to think this is good, but it has also gotten me into trouble for disagreeing with hardline managers, refusing to do things I think are unethical, etc. I think some of this can be attributed to the Montessori school, where respect was based on fact, rational argument, and patient listening, rather than who should be commanding whom.


👤 andrewedstrom
I attended Montessori from 3rd-6th grade and then went to a 2-year transition program called "Project Based Learning" before returning to traditional schooling for 9th-12th grades. I loved Montessori and it helped shape me into the person I am today.

However, transitioning back to traditional schooling was extremely painful, and sadly it never got easier. I hated the rest of my school experience, from 9th grade until basically the end of college.

In Montessori, when it was time to learn a new subject, I'd have a brief, one-on-one conversation with the teacher to get oriented, and then after 10-20 minutes, they'd set me loose to apply the ideas on my own until I mastered the material.

Compared to that freedom, ordinary classrooms were miserable. Trapped, listening to lectures for 45+ minutes at a time before I was able to get my hands dirty and try anything out. And if I caught on early in a lecture, that made things even worse! Now I had to sit there for a half hour and listen to a teacher explain something I already understood—to no one's benefit. I'm getting worked up just thinking of it. Suffice it to say that moving at the pace of the slowest person in the class was torture for my ADHD brain. Montessori spoiled me and I never really reacclimatized.

I don't have any advice except that for some people (like me) Montessori works extremely well, and for many others, it doesn't work well at all. But if it works well, then transitioning back to regular schooling can be tough.


👤 glhast
I attended a Montessori from Kindergarten to 5th grade in the 90's.

I loved it. The teachers let me teach an art and drawing class in 2nd grade. Another student taught an algebra class (he's a brilliant cancer researcher now). I co-wrote, illustrated, and sold a comic book with another classmate in 4th grade during class time.

It allowed me to complete the curriculum on my own time and held me accountable.

Montessori was something I made my own, not something that was happening to me.

The transition out wasn't that bad. I did 5th grade again (June baby) at a standard private school. The biggest things: - I had never written a formal essay, or an essay outline. - I had never taken nor prepared for a real test

Like others here, I never really enjoyed school as much after Montessori.

For the right kid, it can cultivate curiosity, independence, collaboration, and a love for self managed learning. For the wrong kid, it can be an unstructured nightmare.


👤 chasd00
I have a lot of experience with public Montessori, wife taught as a middle school Montessori teacher for the past 3 years and both my kids went through the same school. My youngest is still there at grade 5 and my oldest is in 7th grade at a traditional middle school. My wife has taught traditional high school for about 10 years and then did a summer of training to be a certified Montessori teacher.

One thing we learned is that Montessori isn't for every child. My oldest did OK but he much prefers traditional schools and is thriving at his middle school (a public magnet). My youngest, on the other hand, loves the self-guided learning and pace. He's more organized and self-motivates better than my oldest which makes a big difference. He reads like crazy and finishes books in a week that would take me a month at least, not sure where that came from but he gets a lot of free time at school when his "works" are finished. Both kids are diagnosed with ADHD and so am I (my poor wife heh).

Another thing, the Montessori we attend is public so it still has to meet district and state testing requirements. That put it in an awkward spot where it could never be pure Montessori because of the district and state mandated testing. It also puts the teachers in an awkward spot because they're rated on testing results which contradicts the Montessori method. My wife got fed up and left last year and no teaches at a traditional public high school.

I live in DFW and the Montessori i'm referring to Mata Elementary. DISD is a notorious hellhole of a district but Mata is hanging in there. It's not perfect by any stretch but they're hanging in there and doing their best with what they have. https://www.dallasisd.org/mata


👤 borbulon
My daughter went to a Montessori until she was in 2nd grade. Her friend went through 5th grade. They are both together again in 6th, in the same middle school, and her friend is really struggling with math.

FWIW, my daughter also struggled with math coming into 2nd grade out of Montessori, but it being second grade math, it wasn't hard for her to catch up.

Also, something to watch out for: Montessori is not a registered trademark, so any school can call itself a Montessori school, without offering a Montessori education.


👤 gwnywg
I go with montessori with my kids. My older started at the age of 4 and is now 7, I'm very satisfied with results I see (and I don't push for results, I still remember my education and so I take it easy with my kids). My older could read, write, count and do simple math before he went to primary school (which is also following montessori principles). He now picks up simple programming and not because I push him (I encaurage whatever he feels like doing, like playing the piano or playing chess or doing ice scating or football)

👤 turndown
I did Montessori for preschool and kindergarten, and my review of it is that it will definitely trampoline your kids knowledge in certain subjects they have interest in relative to other kids their age who go to a normal school. I was very strong in math going into 1st grade, but was practically illiterate because I didn't like reading very much.

Your kids will probably be able to socialize with people outside their age range better, but will not be as socially adept with kids their age. I'd recommend some outside activities with strictly people in their age group.


👤 doctor_eval
Montessori is awesome, have put two kids through it and everything about the approach is wonderful. We committed serious financial resources (for us) to do this.

However, as others have said, the individual school can have a huge influence on the quality. We moved interstate a year ago and sadly the new Montessori school doesn’t even have a Montessori teacher in my kids class, so we are leaving.

So make sure you go to an established school where the teachers are Montessori trained and have been in the school a long time. That’s the #1 metric of a Montessori school if you ask me.


👤 gabcbrown
I went to a Montessori School from k-8 then switched into a fairly fast paced public school district for high school. I absolutely loved Montessori, and feel very lucky that I had the opportunity to attend. I felt a lot of ownership/independence about my learning from a young age, and it really supported my curiosity about the world. Interactions with teachers felt like collaboration, not being told what to do, so I felt trusted and it felt very safe to make mistakes and learn. There was no homework, which meant the school day had lots of time built in to work on assignments and move around, which I didn’t realize how much I appreciated until I got to high school and was sitting at a desk all day with hours of homework every night. There were lots of opportunities to learn from people who were really excited to teach what they were teaching. We got to do lots of weird science experiments, big class projects, woodworking, learning about ancient history, several different languages, lots of different instruments... the list goes on.

There were two notable challenges for me, though not everyone in my class experienced these. Some of it will also be limited if you only have them there through 6th grade.

The first was figuring out how to socially transition from a small private school that effectively functioned like a big family, to a large public school. I didn’t really learn how to meet people being at the same small school for so long, and the culture shock of leaving of leaving Montessori was pretty bad. (Both with the way people my age approached learning and the way the public school system operated, i.e. everything is for a grade nothing else matters).

The second is because of some combination of the curiosity driven learning and the particular sequence of teachers I had, I managed to avoid getting a good foundation in algebra because I didn’t really feel like it. This turned out to be a big problem for me for many years, partially because no one realized so I kept being put in higher math classes, doing well through brute force, and being very frustrated and confused about all of it. I’m now getting an advanced degree in math, so everything worked itself out, but I do think math specifically wants a little more structure at those early steps than what I got.

Overall it was still absolutely worth it for me. Sometimes I wonder who I would be now if my curiosity hadn’t been so strongly reinforced when I was young. Happy to answer any specific questions! Hope this helps.


👤 mcv
My children are both going to Montessori schools in Netherland. One to primary school, the other to secondary. And not because we absolutely need to have our kids in a Montessori school, but simply because the primary school is very close to our home and seems like a decent school (though they've had a few issues a couple of years ago), and the secondary school is the only one in Amsterdam that offers 4 hours of programming per week.

I do sometimes worry that the freedom might not work well for my kids; maybe they need a bit more guidance. The youngest (7) simply refuses to do his work, and while the oldest (now 13) skipped a grade when he was 7, he failed last year because he was not doing any homework and not turning in his assignments. Stricter guidance might help them both. Or maybe not. It's hard to tell.

My parents apparently did consider Montessori for me, but I've only gone to regular schools, never did my homework, always passed, and in university discovered I had no work discipline at all, so it seems like everybody in our family is going to run into that problem at some point. Maybe it's better to learn it early.


👤 DemocracyFTW2
I went to a Montessori kindergarten and I'm sure to this day it must have been the best kindergarten in the world. I remember one single time that I felt uneasy there because I had to stay with another group for some time, and the lady in that group was thought to be rather strict. I did whatever I thought I was expected to do and probably didn't look too happy, for at some point she turned to me to tell me, "you don't have to do that, y'know, it's totally up to you". For a kid too shy too ask that was a great deal. It still counts in my life although it's half a century ago. Thank you Mr and Ms Montessori.

👤 havelhovel
I attended a Montessori in the Midwest until third grade. When I entered the California public school system, I was in some ways years ahead of my class (especially in reading comprehension). I coasted through every gifted program they threw at me until high school. Montessori gave me a huge advantage at one of the most critical stages in my development. I wish I could have been there longer.

👤 digerata
I have two kids in it, one 11 year old boy and one 8 year old girl. The school we were in switched to Montessori 4 years ago. The younger loves it. The older very much dislikes the open nature of the school day and struggles to complete tasks. His teacher has had to modify and provide him with much more structure than you would normally receive. You might say that’s because he didn’t start in Montessori from the beginning. But knowing my child, I think Montessori doesn’t work for some kids, in the same way rigid traditional schools don’t work for others.

👤 rossdavidh
My child has been homeschooled and many of the other homeschooling families I have talked to have used Montessori. My primary impression is that it varies a _lot_ from one Montessori school to another, and there isn't much preventing someone from claiming that their private school is "Montessori". So while it's great that you are asking for feedback on HN, make sure also to find out the inside scoop about the _particular_ Montessori school you are considering.

👤 scottshea
My daughter went from 18 months through 8th grade and my wife runs the school so, as you may guess, we are big fans. One thing to look for is the certifications. In the US there are (at least) two main Montessori Certification groups, AMI & AMS. The school my wife runs is AMI but I think AMS would be just as good.

What is slightly different than other experiences here is that the school is a Charter school which poses some challenges but does offer Montessori beyond the normal tuition based model.

As for my daughter, her transition has been fairly smooth. The high school she goes to has more than 10x the students as her old school so is much larger. On the other hand, her grades are good, and she is involved in a number of clubs too.

Montessori is not for everyone but I definitely recommend checking it out.


👤 bmelton
I was hesitant to put my daughter into a bad / violent public school system (ranked bottom 5% in the nation at the time) so we opted for Montessori. She's in college now on a blended CompSci/math major, but in (non-Montessori) high school she developed a Lego robot that has landed her an exhibit in the Smithsonian National Museum of American History, which is probably never a bad thing for her burgeoning career.

👤 Radiot88
Yes, my education began with Pre-K Montessori, and then transitioned to prep school in 7th grade. The dynamics of my family were chaotic at the moment of transition, so there was not much support for me, and the transition difficult.

40 years later, the self-driven learning informs my work, ceeative practice, and ongoing learning. Montessori taught me to look for the next challenge and embrace it.

Dyslexia / dysgraphia / learning differences were not diagnosed in Montessori school, where I excelled at mathematics. When the pressures of prep school ran into the reading writing differences problems ensued.

The bottom line is Montessori taught me to challenge myself and gave me a lifelong love of learning and independent study.


👤 technothrasher
I was in Montessori from pre-school through grade 6, and then transitioned into a traditional private prep school for grade 7 through 12. Honestly, it wasn't that bad of a transition, even though I had to completely relearn what school was supposed to be.

My Montessori school day by grade 6 was a lot of unstructured time, often outdoors, sometimes doing math in the bathroom because that's where it was quiet, very often project based learning with other kids rather than the teacher. Never any "homework" assigned, but often doing school work at home because I wanted to keep working on something.

My prep school was eight periods a day, sitting in desks, learning whatever the day's lesson plan was, getting fixed breaks for lunch and recess, and getting several hours of homework assigned a day.

The two environments were very different. But I adjusted and moved on. The biggest annoyance I had with the prep school was that they controlled my movements so much. In 6th grade, we'd leave the school and go down to the center of town for lunch, getting something at the sub shop or eating our bagged lunch by the town's waterfalls, and returning to school on our own when it was time. In 7th grade, I needed a hall pass to even be out of the classroom during a period, and would definitely get suspended if I left campus during the day.

But from most of the local Montessori schools I toured when I was looking for my son, the freedom we had at my Montessori school in the early 1980's seems to be very much more restricted these days, simply because the larger culture doesn't allow it any longer. The one that actually offered the most freedom for the kids was still the school that I had gone to. But I live too far away from it now for it to have been a real choice.

As it turns out, my son failed spectacularly at his Montessori school because of some learning disabilities he has that they were unable to handle, and he actually is much more happy now in a more traditional school which helped him overcome his disabilities and be successful (not specifically because they are more traditional, but because they are a school well-versed in handling learning disabilities).


👤 alexb_
I'm curious as to what the "failure state" of a Montessori education is. There's a lot to support that good Montessori teachers are better than good "traditional" schoolteachers, but what about the bad teachers? Assessing a system based on good conditions only can miss a lot - anyone here have a bad teacher while going through one of these programs?

👤 pibechorro
My mom is a Montessori teacher of many many years and I did summercamps as a swim instructor in one. While they are all reviewed by the Montessori board and certified, they are all a bit different. Shop around, the gap in quality between different schools can be quite apparent.

That being said, I would not hesitate to put my kids in one, especially over public schools which are a disaster.


👤 dekleinewolf
I did Montessori from age 4-8 and then transitioned because of a move.

Montessori worked really well for me. I have always been 'ahead' and I could explore my own interests. I was never bored in school which is something that changed later on in life. I have very fond memories of that school and my own kids (currently 5 and 3) are in a Montessori school and day care as well.

My son specifically is also doing awesome in Montessori and loves going to school. They have themed shelves with 'tasks' (this is translated, not sure about the common English terminology). Every day they have to do at least one task from the 'language' shelf and one from the 'math' shelf. They also have geography, practical life skills and 'cosmology' (basically anything else) shelves.

Teachers keep track of their skills and accomplished tasks and basically sweep behind if they are lacking in one or more areas by encouraging them to pick up more tasks from those areas.

According to the school on average Montessori kids are more independent, great at critical thinking, more self-confident and tend to pick up leadership roles later in life (I do feel like this applies to me, but I've only had a couple of Montessori years so hard to judge).

I am a big fan.

Is there anything specific you are worried about/interested in?


👤 deathclassic
I was put into montessori preschool at around age 4 after my mom caught daycare workers abusing me. I liked it, was a fun time and I figured out how to read at around a 4th grade level at 5. The issues started when I got taken out of that environment and put into a normal one when I started grade school. You see, my preschool teacher noticed that I had ADHD, but that didn't really matter in a Montessori environment. But in traditional school, this means you get in trouble a lot, get terrible grades, and I've been almost kicked out of every school I've been to. I found the transition to traditional structured school traumatic. This was in early grade school too, I can imagine the experience of going from Montessori school to traditional school in later grades to be impossible, like trying to socialize a feral cat or something.

Look OP, if you think school is about your kids learning you've got it very wrong. Wikipedia and arvix are for learning. School is state subsidized daycare, and social conditioning. Industrial society requires discipline, structure and obedience. Those values are not driven into a child's head in the Montessori, model. Do your kids a favor and get these things drilled into their heads early, before you have a bunch of intellectual bums laying around your house. Don't send your kids to Montessori school.


👤 Yaa101
Yes I did in the 70's.

It worked out well up until my 6th grade (8th grade if you count kindergarten) The higher education part (Montessori Lyceum) never worked out for me as lack of structure and wealth of time freedom killed my effort and work ethos.

The difference between how primary and higher education was structured on a Montessori based education is to far apart of each other.

Primary Montessori education was more about getting the kids curious about the world and make them ask questions and get knowledge that way into the kid. Higher Montessori education was more like standard pumping knowledge that you have to remember for terms and tests.

I was never prepared for that higher education part in my primary education period so I went from bad to worse in my higher education before giving up totally and went to work instead. Later I did catch up when I was grown up.

Still, I am thankful for getting Montessori education as it formed my worldview and kept me curious and inquisitive the rest of my life and even now.

I do wish that in the last 3 years of my primary schooling I had more support for conquering the higher education years.


👤 AndrewKemendo
Yes

My oldest daughter attended private Montessori until age 12 when she transitioned to an exurb public Middle school in an extremely high income area.

Transition was easy because the Montessori middle school she was going to was new and hadn't gotten their legs yet, so had a pretty lackluster program. Adding to that the lack of extracurricular and club/team opportunities, and small class sizes, Montessori method starts be become a hindrance to learning the complex social dynamics you need to survive IRL.

My other kids transitioned to US public education at 8 and 10 respectively with no issues

The most difficult transition was for the 8 year old, simply because her personality fits the more loosely structured method of Montessori better, however this faded pretty quickly

Should be noted also that my kids are extremely naturally gifted and generally live in the "AP/Honors" world, so would most likely flourish anywhere. YMMV


👤 pigtailgirl

👤 eor
I went to a Montessori school from pre-K through 6th grade. Overall I think it was a good experience. But the transition to traditional school was very rough. I was mostly fine academically, but socially it was brutal. I had been going to school with the same 10 people for most of my life, and then suddenly found myself in a crowd of hundreds of strangers with no clue how to make new friends. Add to that all the hormonal stuff going on with 12-13 year olds, and it's a bad scene. It took me about 3 years to acclimate. I think 7th grade is a particularly bad time to be making the transition. It might have been easier if I'd made the jump in grade 5 or 6.

👤 j45
The Reggio Emeila approach might be what some parents are looking for when they’ve heard about Montessori.

It was designed for children after ww2 to reintegrate with their neighborhoods and communities after being shut ins and isolated from other children. It has turned out to have especially meaningful parallels in the past few years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggio_Emilia_approach

I have heard a lot about Montessori and how it’s relative to the practitioner. One thing that comes up is how reintegrating into society can be harder.


👤 nowardic
I went to a Montessori school through the end of grade 7 and then transitioned to a traditional school for grades 8-12. From what I can remember from the transition, it was certainly a bit jarring but ultimately I was able to adapt to the new system fairly quickly and got good grades throughout the rest of my high school education.

Regarding the Montessori experience, I have fond memories of the 7 or so years I spent there. Although it's impossible to tease out causation, I generally attribute my love of learning and personal autonomy to my years there and very much think it was worth it for me.


👤 sakras
I went from preschool to second grade, and I thought it was OK. My teacher in first and second grade was really mean to me which caused me to beg my mom to let me go to public school as I was not willing to go back for a third year of that lady.

Overall I felt it was very restrictive on my education. My day consisted of a few required activities (copy down a few sentences by hand, do 5 addition problems, etc.) followed by doing whatever I wanted. My favorite one was putting together a cube out of these colored blocks, but there’s only so many times you can put that together. The rest of the day was basically spent in boredom as I’d exhausted all the activities that interested me. I spent a fair amount of time reading.

The restrictive part however was the complete lack of preparation on the part of the teachers to teach anything. I remember after doing addition for a while, I asked my teacher to teach me how to multiply. She said “no, that’s for third graders” and left. I basically pieced together that “two times three” meant 2+2+2 just from the way it sounded in English. What a way to shut down a child’s education.

I’m sure I had an abnormally bad experience, and my sample size isn’t enough to discredit the Montessori methodology as a whole. However, I was much happier and felt I learned a lot more from public school. My conclusion is thus that the quality of teachers is vastly more important than the methodology. If you have well-funded public schools in your area, I would definitely suggest them over a poorer private Montessori school.


👤 sybercecurity
Have some experience with Montessori schools, but naturally all schools are different. Like previous posters have said, it can be very good at not beating the curiosity out of kids like some public schools can. They have a pretty good way at teaching reading too. Math is more interesting and one downside is that the skills don't always translate 1:1 if you ever transition to public schools. They will be ahead in some areas, but behind or at a loss in others. Mainly due to the order and way things are done which are very, very different.

One thing that may also be a factor is any learning differences in the child. Montessori teaching is rigid in its own way and not the best for children with dyslexia/dysgraphia (though neither are standard public school curricula). Although early Montessori math is friendlier for dyscalculia with all the use of physical objects. Depending on the school and individual guides, things like ADHD, autism may also lead to issues with the school. Thought that could be said of any private school.

The biggest thing we saw with people pulling their children out of Montessori schools were fears about academic progress and measuring their children against their neighbors' kids in public school. That's on the parent though: some needed constant feedback and validation via grades to feel like their kids were competitive with public schools.


👤 shove
My wife is a Montessori teacher and I'll warn you to watch out for schools that are Montessori in name only. I know, I know ... as if it wasn't hard enough already.

👤 griffinkelly
I transferred to a Montessori school at age 10 and was there to age 12; my family moved overseas after that, so I couldn't continue. That said, it was the first time in my life that I started to enjoy learning, and really started to love math. The fact that I could learn at my own pace, and get individualized learning at the same time from my teachers was life changing for me compared to my prior public school. It's left an impression on me to this day.

👤 scirocco
Montessori from age 6 to 15.

- Self paced learning and choosing how to spend your time

- Need to collaborate with your peers on scarce resources (everyone can't read the same book / solve the same challenge at the same time)

- Small classes, no one could get away with anything/bullying

- Responsibility for completing the weekly plan yourself and being rewarded for hard work ("the diligence light is well lit" sticker you got when sharing your weekly progress - sry poorly translated Swedish"


👤 dyingkneepad
I have a slightly negative experience to share.

I put my kid in a Montessori Preschool. The school was one giant 25-kid classroom with about 5 teachers. He absolutely loved a specific and was learning from her. He was starting to learn to read at the age of 4, super interested in everything she brought him. Then his favorite teacher left the school and it was never the same thing again. Even though he already knew the others, they could never actually get him interested in reading again or simply learning. It seems to me he didn't like the "focus time" (I forgot the name they use!) and doing activities all by himself. School as mostly boring to him, I ever wonder what the heck he was doing there all that time, 99% of the stories he shared with us happened during the little outside play time they had.

Then we put him in Public School for Kindergarten and he absolutely loved it. He loved doing the same activity as everybody else, he loved the teacher, he loved the more energetic environment. He immediately got interested in learning again.

So my conclusion is that it has much more to do with the teacher and the environment than with the method. Choose well, and trust your feelings when you see and talk to the teachers.


👤 jerrysievert
I went through 4th grade. Afterward, I found school boring, and refused to do rote homework (because it was not how I learn things, and thus a boring waste to me).

👤 monkeyguy37
Preface, I went to a Dutch Montessori school. Curriculum is probably very different. Also school starts from the age of 4/5 and goes till 12/13. (group 1-8)

Monstessori is definitely not for everyone, I really enjoyed my time there (not counting the traumatic experiences caused by classmates). I definitely feel like the teachers there can give you a more personalized way of learning which just isn't possible on standard schools. The national curriculum did not challenge me enough and had me really struggling to do any work, eventually my teachers allowed me more time on the computer if I did my work and that worked really well for me.

For transitioning to high school, at first I quite enjoyed it as it was all new but after a while I just lost all motivation. Every meeting with my parents and the school basically came down to "We really think monkeyguy can do better, but he just doesn't seem interested". It sucked, I barely did anything and I barely passed each year. Eventually I graduated and the same thing happened with college/uni. Work life has been great however.

I'm not going to recommend anything however, I do not know your children as well as you do.


👤 ForHackernews
I attended Montessori school for many years and, in retrospect, I don't think it was very good for me.

Montessori education allows children freedom to explore and follow their own interests, and this lack of structure can be problematic. I was a bright kid and many things came easily to me, so when I encountered something that didn't, I would get frustrated and quit.

Unfortunately there are many topics that require pure grinding to master: multiplication tables, musical scales, foreign vocabulary[0], etc. Not only was there nobody to force me to focus on repeating difficult, unpleasant work, I also failed to learn the meta-skill of how to make myself stick at doing things I suck at.

This eventually came to hamstring me later in my education, and even in my adult career I struggle to make myself do necessary yak-shaving.[1]

[0] maybe less so for young children

[1] https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/3880...


👤 andrewxdiamond
> The Montessori method of education involves children's natural interests and activities rather than formal teaching methods. A Montessori classroom places an emphasis on hands-on learning and developing real-world skills. It emphasizes independence and it views children as naturally eager for knowledge and capable of initiating learning in a sufficiently supportive and well-prepared learning environment.

👤 3D30497420
I attended a private Montessori for elementary school, then was home-schooled for middle school/junior high. I then went to a public (magnet art school) for high school.

The gap did provide a bit of a buffer, but I nonetheless did not care for the transition. While the systems were quite different, I believe it was more the difference in the teacher quality that had the largest impact. I was fortunate to go to a small, exceptional Montessori school before such things became ridiculously expensive, while the public school, although it had a few very good teachers, also had some very marginal ones (basically, tenured and terrible).

If the quality of teaching is similar, then I expect the transition would have been much easier. As others have noted, shop around since the teaching quality, rather than the teaching structure, is ultimately what was the starkest change for me.


👤 bcrosby95
Just an FYI, most schools I see that label themselves as Montessori aren't actually Montessori, they're just high performance schooling environments for young kids. In our neck of the woods it's the hip thing and well off parents will pay lots of money for it.

👤 cadr
I did Montessori though 4th grade. Moving to public school in 5th grade was a shock because, while I had been doing algebra self-directed, I never memorized my multiplication tables. I really resented being forced to memorize lists that I could just look up in a table (though I would freely memorize other things). So when I got into 5th grade, I failed all my math tests. I decided that didn't feel good, so I memorized those really fast. :)

In retrospect, I am really glad I moved a bit earlier, because I think going straight from Montessori to 7th grade (junior high there) would have been a big jump. Moving over while still in elementary school eased that. But that was me and my situation.


👤 zhdc1
> Am curious what peoples experiences from Montessori transitioning to other education systems was like and how they perceived the school worked or didn't for then? Have some children decisions and looking for outside opinions! Thanks!

I went through something similar through the end of high school. I did, however, go through public school for elementary.

My experiences mirror a lot of what others on here have already written. The transition to back to traditional education (university) wasn't an issue.

If you are already motivated, going from a low to moderately more rigorous style of learning is easy.

The issue is going in the other direction, which is why so many first year university students fail.


👤 liveoneggs
I went to certified and uncertified montessori until mid 5th grade after public kindergarten offended my mother. It was fine and nice (especially the certified school) but going into a regular school was a bit of a culture shock. The social structure of my tiny parochial school was just so different. I can't even imagine what kids in public middle school go through (although I'm about to experience it by proxy with my own kids).

The montessori was probably a great fit for me because I couldn't sit in a desk all day after moving to regular school and got in a little trouble for being unable to do so until I was about 16.


👤 forgueam
My daughter (14) is currently going through this scenario. She was in a Montessori school from pre-school through 8th grade. The school she went to did not offer 9-12 so we had to transition her to a more traditional school for high school. We were extremely concerned that the daily classroom structure would be a problem, but she's adapted wonderfully. Despite never having traditional grades, tests, and quizzes, she currently has all A's and B's and is doing great. Speaking for myself, I don't think I give my kids enough credit for just how adaptable/resilient they are.

👤 ranbato
We put our 2 oldest kids in Montessori.

The oldest one loved it and thrived in Montessori and stayed in it until we started a Charter school to avoid the local Middle School.

The second one HATED Montessori and we had to move him out to the local elementary school.

In the end it came down to personality. The second kid had a personality that just wouldn't work in a Montessori environment. He would do what he wanted to when he wanted to and would refuse to be redirected in any way, shape or form. Same school, mostly the same teachers, but totally opposite outcomes.


👤 foxandmouse
I did, and my mom is/ has been a Montessori teacher for the last 20 years.

I loved it!!

Montessori is a style of learning, the implementation will vary according to the school though.


👤 j-bos
tldr went to Montessori, thumbs up.

I went to a Montesorri school from 1st through 4th grade. I enjoyed the atmosphere. In recent years I've read about Montessori and found that my Montessori experience was different, but much the same wrt a gentle focus on practical individual learning.

Non Montessori school was a process of checking boxes and actual thinking inbetween, while Montessori was a cycle of thinking through problems for yourself, sometimes as a group.

One thing I didn't appreciate until later school years is that Montessori blends different ages and skill levels together. I neither felt the need to keep up nor to excel, just to figure stuff out. For example, I remember a a classmate writing an essay using movable letters on a mat, but he didn't space them out so it was hard to read. I asked why he was doing it like that and the teacher responded that he had chosen to do it that way, I felt it was wrong, but instead of letting me get on a high horse, the teacher drew my attention to what I was already on my way to do. He continued to write without spaces, and I continued to think someone should correct him. Lo and behold, he learned to use spaces, all without someone, teacher nor child, scolding him, with words or with red marks. That's hard to do in typical bureaucratized classroom.

If I were pressed to find fault in Montessori itself, I'd say, it cannot succeed at all without good teachers/emotion/energy conductors, while a common classroom can get ok enough outcomes with an authority figure and good textbooks.


👤 rco8786
Not me, but my wife did. Through 5th or 6th grade, I forget. She has very fond memories of it, and hated the transition into traditional school. Her account is that once she got there she was a) appalled at being expected to sit at a desk all day listening to teacher's talk or doing worksheets and b) bored as hell because she was significantly further along in her own education. Worth noting that she ended up at a pretty bottom of the barrel public school.

👤 cpascal
I was in Montessori through kindergarten. I do remember feeling a bit disadvantaged socially when I entered 1st grade in a conventional school.

Most of the other students had done kindergarten at my new school and already knew each other. I did eventually make friends, but I always felt like a bit of an outsider since I didn't have that shared kindergarten experience with my peers.

I imagine this would only get worse the longer a child stays out of the conventional schooling system.


👤 ritzaco
I was homeschooled, but we used a lot of Montessori principles for that age range. Completely recommend. I can echo the other comments already here about how I think it strongly promoted curiosity, independence and a love of learning, at the cost of some 'social adaption' - for me, mainly when I went to university and everyone had shared experiences that I was missing, but overall totally worth it IMO if the Montessori school is good.

👤 czbond
My wife is a Montessori teacher of 1-3rd. From what she's told me, students transitioning to Montessori should do it as early as possible. Apparently older students in the "established" system have a hard time achieving the mental switch in thinking.

What I've enjoyed is watching how lessons are very "touch" oriented. Seems every lesson has a visual or touch oriented wood tool.

The students are dividing 6 digit numbers in 2nd/3rd (!).


👤 2snakes
I have very old memories (6? or earlier) for attending for a approximately a year. It might have been Waldorf, it might have been Montessori.

There were several young people who I later transferred in HS back into their district and remembered.

Lots of little learning puzzles and nap time. LOTS Of stories. In fact I would say the curriculum, and this is a long time ago, was primarily fables besides what was self-directed and puzzles. The teachers were mostly kind.


👤 pandemicsoul
Very small anecdotal experience, but I was in Montessori school for grades 2-3 (in the late 80s) and it ruined my math education. When I should have been learning the standard ways to do basic math, they were teaching me nonsense like "skip counting" with rhymes. Despite coming from a family of people very good at math (which also put a focus on math education at an early age), I fell behind and never caught up.

👤 BiteCode_dev
Did it for one year. Best year of my school life. But it's a shock to go back to the public system where dynamic are adversarial and artificially oriented around superficial metrics, both for tests and social life.

You probably need both to be well adapted because the public system teaches you to defend yourself, which us necessary IRL. Montessori teaches you collaboration and thinking outside of zero sum mindset.


👤 kashunstva
My daughter attended Montessori through grade 8, with a stint of homeschool in there. She is in high school at an arts boarding school studying classical violin (well, and those academic things on the side…) She felt well prepared for the type of work required because of foundational experiences of independent work in Montessori. Transition was not difficult at all.

👤 germinalphrase
I don’t have personal experience with Montessori, but one of my best friends is a long time Montessori teacher. Just posting to echo the comments stating that different Montessori schools will operate and feel different, so do your research before enrolling to be sure the experience will be a good fit for your child.

👤 jugg1es
The CEO at a previous company went to a Montessori school until middle school. He said he could barely read when he got there. He still had major problems spelling basic words in his late 60s. I guess it didn't hurt him but he was already a smart guy. It's hard to tell how much it mattered.

👤 rr808
I sent my children to regular public elementary school. They loved it, was a great environment. They are now confident, curious, smart & successful high schoolers with loads of friends. The local Montessoris around here are 20->30k a year, a waste of money.

👤 wayne
I went as a kid and remember it as one of the most fun moments of my life. I remember being able to do whatever I wanted. I was binge-reading some weeks, playing with fun toys with other kids other weeks, or just laying outside on the grass. This was preschool though.

👤 msravi
Sent my kid to a Montessori in kindergarten. The thing I liked about it is that they put kids of different ages together. From what I've seen, kids learn fastest when they're put with kids slightly more proficient than themselves.

👤 smolder
I did attend this type of school. It was only for kindergarten, but I have interesting memories of it, and feel like it had a strong influence on the rest of my education and life thereafter.

👤 poorbutdebtfree
In our middle school cross country league, the Montessori school is the only private school, and they always finish dead last as a team.

👤 epolanski
My ex did, she loved it.

She largely outperformed all her peers later in life.


👤 movedx
My wife did. She's now also a teacher. If you've got a contact email, I'm sure she'd be happy to answers any specific questions.

👤 rejectfinite
My daycare had it. I don't really know if it made a difference or what I think about it or what it even is. My mom liked it, I guess?

👤 odessacubbage
there are advantages to both systems. alternative schools are more like an idealized & harmonious version of the world while public ed mirrors the dysfunction and corporatocracy of 'real life' (and not to mention the blatant incuriosity & joylessness of managerial figures)

hippie school teaches you how to love the world, state school teaches you how to live in it.


👤 fideloper
Montessori was bad for me. At least the Montessori I was placed in.

I need to find out where it was (and how old I was - I would guess 5 or 6), but the situation is that I was not ready (or perhaps not the right type of kid) for Montessori.

I was painfully shy, and I'd avoid attention.

The teachers (there were 2 I believe) must have been happy to ignore me. How else do you spend an entire year not paying attention to a student? Perhaps they were overworked.

I'd spend a lot of time in the bathroom, or ... I'm not even sure what. Playing with something, but generally not learning.

The strong theme of these comments here are how Montessori really allowed some to thrive, but I cannot imagine that - it was very much not my experience. Perhaps that was me, or perhaps it was that particular school. Likely both.

I have a distinct memory of another student (a friend) learning the alphabet. A teacher was spending time with him, letting him draw the letters out. For whatever reason, I wanted to be included in that. Even at that young age, I suspect I knew that something was off. I wanted that attention as well.

I expressed interest in doing what my friend was doing (I'm not sure what - writing out the alphabet perhaps), but was told no. I don't remember why, this was some 30+ years ago now - but I recall that rejection.

I eventually went to public school, but was very nearly held back. I didn't know anything!

My mother interceded and I was allowed to stay in that grade (which is good, I'm still on the older side for my grade - holding me back could have been even more awkward).

She helped me learn what I needed to know at home - I imagine it was quite the effort.

I still wonder why I was put in that position to begin with! You think they would know that I wasn't learning anything, but I'll bet it was easy to hide.

Kids born in the 80's and 90's tended to have parents who were very hands-off it seems (certainly my case, and anecdotally, that seems to the trend of those times). I've asked what was going on before, but answering specifics from decisions from 30 years ago is a tough question for a parent in their 70's now. They were probably struggling with money at the time and had their own worries.

I'm not sure I'll send my kids to Montessori, although I suspect they would thrive where I did not. Parents now a days (me!) are much more involved in their kids lives (for better or worse) and I imagine between internet reviews and us being top of it, my own issue wouldn't be repeated for my kids.


👤 jamst174
i don't think we'll go through 6th grade ($$$$), but we have our youngest in Montessori pre-K and love it. Since our local school doesn't have full day kindergarten, we'll likely keep him there through that as well.

👤 Exuma
I did, best thing my parents ever did for me.

👤 whalesalad
not montessori, but i was in an "applied scholastics" (scientology) school for a few years. what a trip that was.

👤 riley_dog
An old friend of mine, who's now a crazy antivaxxer, sends his kids to Montessori because the public schools won't take his kids. Makes me wonder what'll happen after Montessori.

👤 tducasse
My wife went to this indian alternative education school, a boarding school called Rishi Valley. They've opened many branches now, though I can't speak for the ones I don't know, all based on the philosophy of Jiddu Krishnamurti; you can read more about them here: https://jkrishnamurti.org/schools

Rishi Valley's teachning style is, honestly, what I wish my education had been. I remember being a kid and asking my teacher for "more", questions about what happens _beyond_ what we had just learned, and them saying "don't worry about it, you'll learn next year". Rishi Valley's approach is "why don't you come later and I'll show you? is anyone else interested?". They really try to emphasize learning for the sake of learning, and kids can choose from multiple subjects.

The teachers are often PhDs who have decided that they care a lot about education. Since it's a not for profit school, they're not paid a lot, but they live on campus, and get to interact with kids all day everyday. Most of the money the school gets is put back into rural education.

Now, the transition back to the "standard" system when the kids have to go to college is not smooth. Most of the ones I've talked to mention that they were extremely overwhelmed with the "rat-race" and the fact that everyone was so competitive, where they had been focusing on learning for the sake of learning. Everyone I've met from this school is very good at critical-thinking, and they don't accept a conclusion just because "someone said so", they will fact-check, do their own research, debate, ... Which I think should be the goal of education.

My anecdotal experience is that they overperform their non-weird-school peers though. But is that due to the teaching itself? Or is it maybe because the kind of parents who would put their kids in this school already did some sort of ground-work? I'm not sure!