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📣 startupnoob2022

What happens to YC standard MFN when there is no round?


As my name says, I am a startup noob and never founded. According to https://www.ycombinator.com/deal, YC invests a 375k$ chunk as a Most Favored Notion provision.

Let’s say the following is the situation:

- I can convince YC to accept me in a batch

- …and that even though my idea is in a draft state, without customers

- My idea will possibly make a huge revenue (not billions, but it will be a great business still)

- I only need the initial 500k$ to build that great business as a single founder

- I do not want a follow-up investment round

- The business will continue operation and won’t shut down

Two questions:

1. Do I need to pay back the 375k$ if there will never be another round?

2. Would it be illegal/breaking any contracts if I knowingly receive money from YC with the intention to never collect any additional investor money?

Side note: I understand it’s highly unlikely YC will ever invest into such a startup because it’s not a real VC case but for the sake of it, let’s imagine they would.

Thank you!


  👤 nivertech Accepted Answer ✓
1. The whole point of SAFE is that it's not a convertible debt note. It's not a loan - you don't need to return it.

2. You would be lying here. And you assume that YC partners will not catch it, which I doubt. YC invests in people, not in ideas. Some YC startups pivoted to be a services companies (one example is web scraping-as-a-service), and they are selling their services to other YC alumni startups. I don't think it's a good idea to strive to build a life-services business, better have some ambigous goal first, and only in the worst case pivot to productized services, lifestyle, or consulting company. Remember starting up a small company and starting up a large company takes more or less the same effort (at least initially).