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📣 edmcnulty101

Do you all have enough to do at work?


I work at a big company have been there 6 months and really don't seem to have a ton to do at work. My co-workers who have all been there many years seem to have a bunch of work to do. I feel like Im supposed to be schmoozing with them for work to do which I've never had to do before at other jobsc and I'm not really good at. I keep mentioning at standups that I have bandwidth available but never get any more work to do. Is this like a tactic to drive someone out or just kind of a normal ebb and flow? It feels weird.


  👤 muzani Accepted Answer ✓
Having worked at startups all my life, there's infinite work for us. At the very least, lots of tech debt and insufficient test coverage. On FE, there's also supporting a wider range of devices.

And then things that could be done better (reactive programming, declarative UI, etc).

Then finding weaknesses in the code, documenting them, educating the team. For example, we're not handling enough error codes properly like no bandwidth and when certain endpoints are down, users tend to panic. Or sometimes, certain endpoints should be combined for performance.

It could be putting down more logs, benchmarking performance, integrating analytics into the sales funnel, monitoring user frustration.

No offense, but I think asking around for things to do is a fairly junior attitude. The more experienced ones usually don't look at tickets, but instead start proposing things that can be done.


👤 xyzzy4747
There’s an infinite amount of work to do especially at a tech company.

I’ve been in your shoes before and when I was more immature I would just browse the Internet and not do much.

However, as I became a more experienced engineer (and currently CTO of my startup), if I ran out of things to do I would think “how can I make this product better?” and just start working on stuff. Or if you can’t figure out what to do on your own, you can always ask your manager or product owners.

From a management and personal growth perspective, you should try to become as autonomous as possible where you provide value even if nobody directly commands you to. This will also grow your skillsets. People don’t like micromanaging other people - ideally you would just be a useful employee without anyone continually asking or assigning you things.

Also just imagine - what if you owned the company? Surely there is something to do that makes it more appealing to the end-users, makes the product better, makes the code quality better, or so forth?

If your issue is you don’t feel incentivized, or are just bored, then maybe look for a new job. If you are just staring into space at work then there are better things you could be doing with your time.


👤 oneforty4
~6 months is still relatively new in my opinion.

That's unfortunate that they aren't giving you more tasking, especially if you're asking for more. But, without knowing too many details, it probably is just the normal ebb and flow.

My experience is that it can take several months to a year before I get really fully spun up on a new job. A lot of more senior people generally feel that it will take longer to hand off a task to someone new than to do it themselves. So it takes time for them to know and get comfortable with your skills and abilities.


👤 treeman79
In 20 years. I told a boss I didn’t have enough to do, exactly once.

Never again. I didn’t have a spare moment for 3 years.

Now I ask for priorities.


👤 9wzYQbTYsAIc
> I feel like Im supposed to be schmoozing with them for work to do which I've never had to do before at other jobsc and I'm not really good at.

I would suggest that you hone in on this, and given the size of your company, I would also hazard the suggestion that you ask HR if they have any supplemental training that they can provide to help you grow in that area.

There are a tremendous number of resources on the internet for how to improve your social skills, such as https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...


👤 barbariangrunge
I have so much to do at work that I couldn’t get it done even if I worked weekends and split into two people.

If you want more to do, work hard and find somebody like me with tasks that they either don’t have time to do, or don’t want to do; then volunteer to handle one that you want to learn how to do. They will shrug and say, “I guess.” You could even get started on it ahead of time so that you can present an idea for how to solve it at the pitch stage — after all, you say you have nothing else to do.

If you do that enough times over the years, you’ll learn so much that it will be you who the company depends on to do way too much, and you’ll start being thankful (if a tiny bit skeptical) when a junior offers to take a task off your hands…


👤 synicalx
Enough to do in terms of work that is directly assigned to me/my team; no not always.

Enough to do in terms of stuff I've found that needs doing; always.

I guess I'm lucky to have a degree of autonomy that lets me shape a percentage of my workload towards stuff that just needs to get done, so I never really run out of stuff to do. I find the biggest challenge is actually finding stuff that needs doing and also motivating/organising myself to actually do it.

Moral of the story; if you find you've got nothing to do then go out and look for stuff to do. Have a look at stuff like ticket backlogs, documentation that needs doing/cleaning up, analytics, bug reports, feature requests etc.


👤 pixelfog
I'm in a similar situation at my second project, in my first project I had a lot of work but in this project I barely have anything to do, I probably work less than 10 hours in a week atm and I'm fine with it until I switch to another job.

👤 noud
I work in a big company as one of the more experienced guys in the department. There's definitely more work to do than I can do. Some coworkers work hard to get rid of as much work as possible by putting it on other peoples desks. In the mean time I've become efficient in being assertive and saying no to anything I don't like doing (and which is not my responsibility to do).

So you say you don't have much to do at work? Are others complaining about that? If not, good for you. It's better to do less, but do it well, than the other way around.


👤 teaearlgraycold
I felt similar and quit my team for a project that has a clear backlog and no one else working on it. Feels good to read through public bug reports with lots of people affected and actually fix things. My last team was losing pretty much everyone. Half the team has quit since about a year ago. There just wasn't much bandwidth to get me the attention I wanted - 1:1 time learning and working with experienced people. I'd rather just work alone and see my direct impact than wander aimlessly.

👤 acchow
In software? Isn’t there infinite work?

👤 akudha
My previous job - I had nothing to do. I was watching Netflix. In my current job, I have so much work that I don’t have time for eat lunch.

Neither of the two situations is good.

I’d suggest looking for another job. Life is too short to schmooze. The other option is to spend the extra time learning. Most important - don’t feel bad about getting paid for not doing much work. It is not your fault, it is your employer’s fault


👤 cableshaft
I've had jobs like that, that were pretty much in "keep the lights on" mode, they were doing well enough and new initiatives were few and far between.

But I've had several jobs where there's way too much to do and you'll never get it all done, so you have to prioritize. My current job at a consulting firm is like that. Working at startups tended to be that way as well.


👤 halfmatthalfcat
If I don’t have stuff I make stuff up that I wanna do and it’s usually something the business needs but I usually have a decent backlog.

👤 xs83
Yep agree with most of what is written below, I am CTO at a listed company that is still very much a start-up (we went public too early IMO). I have infinite work and I expect the same to be true of most "start-ups".

Likewise all of my team - never a shortage of work - even if all client work is done there are a billion internal product things to be worked on!


👤 THENATHE
I have bursts of works. Some days it seems like there is a never ending stream of bullshit thst keeps me busy, and others I am scrambling to find something to keep me busy so I don’t look like I’m slacking off. I work as a sysadmin and manage a small data center that hosts about 1200 websites and other apps

👤 ge96
In the same boat. Keep working on tooling, docs... been a bit since I solved something/wrote code. Also just setting up random vm's, environments to work on things. Sprints go by I feel like I have not accomplished anything tangible.

👤 gamjQZnHT53AMa
I'm in the same boat as you. 6 months into a job, don't have much to do. When I raise this, I'm often given some busy-work to do. Something meaningless to keep me quiet for a day or two. Frustrating.

👤 71a54xd
Definitely not, I work above standard but all in all maybe top out at 18 hrs per week - I backfill the rest with personal interview prep (fml leetcode) and contracting at 3x my work pay. TLDR; TPM work is a breeze - idk why I spent so much time slaving away as an IC.

👤 zem
yes for me - i'm in a big company, but in an understaffed team within that company, so there's always more that we want to get done than we can actually do.

👤 itisit
How big of a company? Is it a consultancy?

👤 kimchisoup
sigh Yes.