Did Facebook read my WhatsApp chat and target me with an ad?

Question

I have read similar stories but finally experienced this myself: in a private WhatsApp chat with my partner, we discussed for the first time a specific bike rental service that operates in our town. This was the first time we ever discussed this, and we mentioned the service by name.Around 30 minutes later I went on facebook.com, and saw an ad to this specific service.Some context which I think controls for "simpler" explanations to this co-occurrence: I did not go on this service's website following our chat, nor did I search for it on Google. I did open the service's app on my phone, but it was already installed and as far as I know (and hope) Apple does not share this kind of usage data, let alone with Facebook.WhatsApp chats are encrypted end-to end. My buest guess is that Facebook is able to do some kind of homomorphic encryption, which it was claimed to be able/trying to do [1,2].[1] https://www.macrumors.com/2021/08/03/facebook-researching-analyzing-encrypted-data/[2] https://www.androidauthority.com/whatsapp-encryption-ads-2728774/

beermonster · Accepted Answer

The Social Dilemma and The Great Hack documentaries on Netflix cover this in greater detail but basically they don't need to read your messages, when the can predict your behaviour so accurately. IMHO this is actually worse than reading your messages.

dagmx · Answer

They don&rsquo;t need to read your messages. Your behaviours outside of the messages are enough and they fact that you messaged each other.Some simple explanations from there on out:- your partner searched for the bike service or just any bike services and they happen to be the best fit for ads. More so, if you mentioned it to any friends, they could have searched for it and Facebook can associate relationships.- neither of you may have had an original thought when the discussion of using the service came up. You maybe heard the idea in passing and/or were in an area where others were searching for it.Facebook doesn&rsquo;t need to know what you talk about, as much as they need to know who you talk to and building relationship models from there. Everything after that is simply extrapolating that you have interests similar to the people you interact with regularly OR to the people who go to the same places as yoy

ppjim · Answer

It is not necessary to read your messages to target you with an ad. All that Facebook needs to know is that you and your partner were talking. It's very likely that your friend visited the bike rental service website, Facebook page or chatted with them. The metadata of your chat, which is not encrypted, could reveal this information, such as when you and your friend were speaking and how long the conversation lasted.

Raed667 · Answer

Could be much simpler: the service app uses Facebook marketing tools at some point (in the SDK or server-side) for ads and retargeting.So when you opened it you showed some intent that was deemed interesting enough.

rovr138 · Answer

Did either of you by any chance send links?
Even if message content is encrypted end-to-end, I'm curious if those previews it loads are tracked.
Just curiosity. Can't really say they are, but it might explain something.

gabrielsroka · Answer

Sometimes I get ads on YouTube for a restaurant that I was just thinking about. But 99.9% of the time, the ad has nothing to do with anything.I think it's just a coincidence.

Did Facebook read my WhatsApp chat and target me with an ad?

The Social Dilemma and The Great Hack documentaries on Netflix cover this in greater detail but basically they don't need to read your messages, when the can predict your behaviour so accurately. IMHO this is actually worse than reading your messages.

Could be much simpler: the service app uses Facebook marketing tools at some point (in the SDK or server-side) for ads and retargeting.
So when you opened it you showed some intent that was deemed interesting enough.

Did either of you by any chance send links?
Even if message content is encrypted end-to-end, I'm curious if those previews it loads are tracked.
Just curiosity. Can't really say they are, but it might explain something.

Sometimes I get ads on YouTube for a restaurant that I was just thinking about. But 99.9% of the time, the ad has nothing to do with anything.
I think it's just a coincidence.

Did Facebook read my WhatsApp chat and target me with an ad?

The Social Dilemma and The Great Hack documentaries on Netflix cover this in greater detail but basically they don't need to read your messages, when the can predict your behaviour so accurately. IMHO this is actually worse than reading your messages.

Could be much simpler: the service app uses Facebook marketing tools at some point (in the SDK or server-side) for ads and retargeting.So when you opened it you showed some intent that was deemed interesting enough.

Did either of you by any chance send links?Even if message content is encrypted end-to-end, I'm curious if those previews it loads are tracked.Just curiosity. Can't really say they are, but it might explain something.

Sometimes I get ads on YouTube for a restaurant that I was just thinking about. But 99.9% of the time, the ad has nothing to do with anything.I think it's just a coincidence.

Could be much simpler: the service app uses Facebook marketing tools at some point (in the SDK or server-side) for ads and retargeting.
So when you opened it you showed some intent that was deemed interesting enough.

Did either of you by any chance send links?
Even if message content is encrypted end-to-end, I'm curious if those previews it loads are tracked.
Just curiosity. Can't really say they are, but it might explain something.

Sometimes I get ads on YouTube for a restaurant that I was just thinking about. But 99.9% of the time, the ad has nothing to do with anything.
I think it's just a coincidence.