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Work Culture Canary?


On our fridge, 7 years ago, I put a poster: Anarchy soda! Fizzy drinks, for the people, by the people, take one, leave some.

I didn't set this up with any other intent that having some soda available to myself, but I've come to think of it as my canary.. The fridge pretty much never runs dry, to the astonishment of many a visitor. It indicates to me, that the culture is sound, that people are conscientious and respecting of one another. If it stops working, it flags to me that we either have a bad apple, or that it's time to start looking.

It's also awesome to always have access to fizzy drinks :)

Anything similar where you work? A thing that intentionally or not, indicates to you that you're surrounded by reasonable people?


  👤 gorbachev Accepted Answer ✓
The difference between plebs' and bosses' seating arrangements.

If plebs get second hand, barely functional chairs/desks, hand-me-downs as computing equipment and insufficient lighting while bosses get a corner office and a $10K desk, it's pretty clear who they value and who they don't, which normally also extend to how seriously the plebs' opinions/suggestions are taken.


👤 taffronaut
Every time I take a can of soda from the fridge, I replace it with two. I exhort my colleagues to do the same. However we have yet to reach my goal of 2^64 cans which makes me suspect there are some bad apples.

👤 quickthrower2
My happiness in a job is inversely proportional to the diligence with which they track time and estimations.

👤 jonatron
In a small growing company, when someone starts leaving the toilets in a mess, there is a bad hire. Knowing you work with at least one uncivilized person changes the feel of the company.

👤 thematrixturtle

👤 dugmartin
Mine is when human beings working at the company start becoming referred to as “resources” instead of people.

👤 beardyw
In a similar vein I visited Cyprus some years ago. In the middle of nowhere was a shaded spot with a few tables, a fridge and a plastic tub. You took a beer out of the fridge and put the money in the tub. That was how it worked.

👤 blueflow
How jokes are reacted to. Jokes can be unfunny or tasteless, but when someone argues big concepts that a joke must not be made, its a big red flag.

👤 noneeeed
This is for management culture: talk to your non-technical colleages (office manager, junior HR/admin etc) see how they are doing and how they are being treated.

To understand who someone is you need to see how they behave when they have nothing stopping them. Management will often have to treat engineering/specialist staff well because they have no choice, but they see support staff as more interchangeable and easier to replace. If they are being treated well, with respect etc, then that's because management have a good culture of valuing people.

How management treats people it doesn't have to treat well tells you have they would treat you if they could.

It's kind of the office version of the judging people based on how they treat waiting staff.


👤 marc_rich
After getting an offer letter, ask if you can come over and have one last chat with the dev team. If the hiring manager says no, walk away.

👤 Mandatum
https://steveblank.com/2009/12/21/the-elves-leave-middle-ear...

Once they cut benefits that are widely lauded. Holiday-free PTO, exercise and health benefits, stuff that makes sense to anyone to attract talent when times are tough. You can cut corners, you can cut bonuses when times are tough - but you can't cut benefits. It's a short-term way of thinking, and you'll lose your best employees over it.


👤 bluehatbrit
When the leadership switches on "let us know what you think" to "your managers will chat to you and collect feedback". It's not always the case but often this is leadership putting up a barrier so they can more easily dismiss the feedback they know they're going to get.

👤 pingpongrandom
This may be a bit of a different scale, but pay attention to how many lawyers are in the company. If the amount dramatically increases for some unknown reason, it's probably a good time to depart.

👤 oxff
How they treat office work (first or second class)

👤 qikInNdOutReply
If its hard to find out the owner of the company, cause everyone could be it.

People who are self-secure, are empowered to solve problems on there own, do not get bogged down in useless hierarchys, can be easily mistaken for the boss of the shop.


👤 samizdis
This isn't quite the same thing as a "work culture canary", but it offered an interesting (to me, at least) perspective on coworkers.

On two occasions, once in a large media office in the UK for a year and the second time in another large media office in Australia for two-and-a-half years, I maintained a huge stash of chocolate bars in the drawers at my workstation. In the UK, I'd leave the drawer open to display the wares; Twix, Milky Way, Flake, Rolos etc, and also bars of slightly better chocolate - Toblerone, Green & Black's etc.

People would drop by for a chat, take what they wanted and go on their way. Quite a few would cut the chat, grab a bar and leave with a grin or a thumbs-up or similar. I liked it that they cut to the chase; didn't feel awkward about taking what was freely offered without feeling obliged, for weird social/politeness reasons, to make smalltalk.

At the time, we'd had a bunch of teenagers working to sort out, manually, a huge mess with a football (i.e. soccer) score/results feed, which was spewing all sorts of rogue data. The teenagers were all keen followers of the sport and could spot errors reliably. One was my nephew, a law student, one was a friend's son, an English Lit student, and the other two were sons of a colleague, one an economics student and his brother in his final year of school. This crew were stationed all around my workstation. They were really observant.

It surprised me to find out that some colleagues would avail themselves of the chocolate drawer only when I wasn't at my desk (too many meetings, so for at least an hour during the working day). Others, I was told, whose regular choices would be Twix, Rolos or similar, would, if I were absent, hit the better stuff instead. My young observers had great fun with this people-watching stuff, and it amused me greatly.

In Australia, I kept drawers stocked with standard bags of fun-size Mars, Twix, Milky Way, Flake etc, and higher-quality bars from Haigh's and Koko Black. Every day I'd fill bowls with these and leave them on a shelf in front of my desk. Although I lacked my teen crew, I found willing observers among the devs in our corner of the office - we were working on a newsroom system and doing so in the newsroom itself, so lots of journalists and ad people were our neighbours; which was a similar mix to that in the UK.

Similar patterns emerged. Some people took chocolates only when I wasn't present, and others changed their preferences based on my presence/absence.

It'd never pass muster as a proper experiment, but my biggest take-home was that "my sort of person" was happy to grab and run without chitchat, always took whatever they fancied, and never altered their habits depending on whether or not I was around. Also, and this was the same in the UK and in Australia, the "grab-grin-and-run" folks were the only ones who would, every now and then, add a pile of chocolate themselves.

Another takeout, again, it's nothing but anecdotal, was that advertising people took the free stuff only when I wasn't around, in the UK and in Australia.

Anyhow, chocolate is quite cheap and my supplies probably cost £20 to £30 a week at the time (say 10 or 12 years ago). But it's fun seeing how people react to something as trivial as free chocolate, and how it provides behavioural/social insights.


👤 mimikatz
I really liked this talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL2WDcNu_3A about culture and how to change it. The fun enjoyable nonseriousness aspect of it seen in your example applies to their findings

👤 daltont
Twenty or thirty years ago it was always a bad sign when someone is assigned to something with a name like "Special Projects". It meant the company didn't know what to do with you, but didn't want to fire/layoff just yet.

👤 martin_a
Looooooots of red flags for my current employer, when I see your canaries posted here. :-D

👤 lrvick
When the security tickets are consistently ignored, it is time to bail.