Is there a spiritual successor to del.icio.us?
Recently I found myself looking for a place to store bookmarks. I used to love del.icio.us, but it's no longer around. What is its spiritual successor? I'm currently trying Pocket, which seems to be alright, but I wonder if there is anything else this community can recommend. The most important things for me would be integration with browsers, maybe a dedicated app, and mobile / desktop support.
I’m working on an open-source social bookmarking site in Elixir that is API compatible with delicious/pinboard. Its named linkhut and it’s currently able to import your bookmarks from pinboard and browser exports.
The flagship instance is: https://ln.ht
The source code is hosted here: https://sr.ht/~mlb/linkhut/
The documentation: https://docs.linkhut.org/introduction.html
The one thing that I’m working on before releasing 1.0 is taking a snapshot at time of bookmark and index its contents to make it searchable (similar to pinboard’s feature).
Check out http://pinboard.in/resources/ ... and that's not purely a recommendation to look at pinboard; scroll to the bottom of Resources & there's a list of alternatives. Many of which are mentioned here. Pretty bold, in my opinion, to list those and offer pinboard at $22/year (which actually seems like a good price). For the record, I'm using Instapaper and Safari's built-in (synced) bookmarks. So apparently, I'm not spiritually aligned.
To me, Search is the number 1 need. And would be cool if an extension that added a button to bookmark pages visited could also introspect every page I visit to look through old bookmarks & show a count in a separate button to view similar related pages I've already visited.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I stopped using many online cloud services because they get shut down or acquired by a big fish. Instead, I am using buku[1], a command-line utility to store, tag, search and organize bookmarks on a Linux desktop. But, it should work on any OS due to Python. All I have to do is backup a single ~/.local/share/buku/bookmarks.db SQLite file.
[1] https://github.com/jarun/buku
From my experience, simplicity and portability is really the key to a long term and effective bookmarking system.
I add everything into one single bookmark folder in Firefox and slap on a few tags. Syncing between devices works perfectly. Adding a star (*) to the address bar limits the search to bookmarks only, which makes it insanely fast to look up interesting stuff I have bookmarked but vaguely remember, by typing one or two keywords. It makes it easy to look up things on my phone too, when out with friends and I need reference a project, article or whatever.
It has become the second brain I always wanted but never managed to maintain with more complex tools and services.
pinboard.in but Maciej appears to be offline (?) at the moment and archiving is a bit broken (for me). Hope he's OK.
I have been using it for the past 15 years with great satisfaction.
I moved from delicious to pinboard, then from pinboard to nextcloud bookmarks, then finally to Evernote. Clipping pages to Evernote means I get both the link and a searchable snapshot of the content: helpful for discovery and if the link rots.
I built my own https://www.kontxt.io and hit the front page of HN not too long ago. It's a modern hybrid productivity and social bookmarking / news / knowledge aggregation service. Think social web layer with CMS and social network.
You can save the site / pdf (link or archive), engage with highlights, comments, and polls. There's privacy controls. It's searchable. Everything can be organized with tags as well as folders. You can join groups and follow people to discover shared content. Highlights can be shared natively to popular social platforms and observed with analytics. User's can also set a personal promotion with what they share as an added benefit and incentive to provide value.
del.icio.us?! What memories! I remember that when I discovered it I spent 24 hours labeling my markers, I think it was back in 2008.
Since it disappeared I have been using firefox bookmarks, because of its ease to make backup copies, also yesterday I discovered that they can be tagged and those terms are included in the firefox search box, so far I am happy, but it is also not I use markers very often.
Wallabag, a free software alternative to Pocket, that you can self-host if you want. They also provide a service you can subscribe to. Hosted in Europe.
https://www.wallabag.it/
I built a system called Tap [0]. It does a lot more than collect bookmarks, but the bookmark functionality[1] is solid.
I had the realization that the impulse to collect a bookmark is similar to the impulse to collect all kinds of things: notes, transactions, images, formulas, events, etc. Tap is a collection of building blocks to collect, organize and put this information to use.
0. https://tatatap.com
1. https://tatatap.com/bookmarks
i use trello for links lately, since lots of my surfing is project-oriented
i use apple notes for links plus text for projects that have a short completion cycle (find a bunch of stuff, make an analysis and decision, jettison the research)
(this is relevant only because i wrote del.icio.us originally)
Personally I am using GoodLinks: I am most of the time on mobile and it has good support for iPhone and iPad. You can add custom tag, mark link as ‘read’ when bookmarking. Simple but does what I need.
App Store link:
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/goodlinks/id1474335294>
Not related to the developer, just a happy user.
Is this the motivation I need to reboot my https://curabase.com efforts?
Several years ago I wrote my own spiritual successor. It’s called Curabase.
It has been posted on HN before. If there’s enough interest I will renew development efforts on it.
I’ve been looking for a side hustle again
I use Zotero with cloud sync. It's got full text search, tagging, webpage snapshotting, and PDF annotations
It's less simple than Delicious used to be, but it scratched the itch for a while for me. I barely ever bookmark anything these days. When Delicious was sold I stopped using it, and realised I didn't miss bookmarking and hardly ever read any of my bookmarks anyway. Excessive bookmarking seems like FOMO to me, I try to avoid it and embrace a more Zen-like attitude :)
This is just sort of how the internet is going right now. Global, free services like that are starting to make less money. Facebook is circling the drain, Twitter is in hot water. Going decentralized is sort of getting more popular. Companies are focused more on profitability than growth right now, so there's little incentive to grow these platforms and more incentive to ruin them in the hopes of making money.
I find myself using markdown files these days to store my links. That way I can also store context around the links by writing stuff around the links. This sounds foolish, but it does in fact check all your boxes:
- You can publish this markdown file on GitHub pages so it has integration with browsers
- People can follow you using RSS (yes, people still do this, myself included)
- I use Epsilon Notes and FolderSync Pro on my Android device to sync the markdown files over Dropbox so there's mobile app support
- Portable across time because it's just text
- Widely supported by different tools
This is actually also my note-taking system. I have shortcuts in them that allow me to take screenshots and store them next to the markdown and link to them. I store links by simply making a link in the markdown file of the paragraph I'm working on.
I've been using Pocket for quite some time. Exported from Pinboard IIRC. Dead simple with browser extension and app integration on mobile. If you have the app installed on your phone, you can use the "share" icon on any other app to send a link to Pocket. https://getpocket.com/my-list
I want to upload a big collection of URLs (or a small collection or just one URL - occasions vary) and get subject tags assigned automatically (then I would download the dataset back). This is about functional programming, that is about Star Wars, other two are about healthcare etc. del.icio.us could do this. Pocket can do it (albeit not for free). Are there more alternatives?
Depends on your goals with this.
If it is sharing of links, use Twitter or whatever social network you use. My main issues with those is that they don't tend to have good history/search if you want to dig out a link you shared months ago. I find finding back what I remember sharing or what I saw other share a bit of a challenge with social networks. This was what del.ico.us was good at. Also nice was getting a sense of how popular things were from how many people bookmarked a certain thing.
If it is just storing bookmarks, use the browser sync in your browser. I have my bookmarks synced across my devices with Firefox. But I don't use bookmarks that often.
I never had much use for things like pocket. At least, I either click on something and read it right away or I don't. I don't really save things for reading them later. Just not part of how I do things. But I guess if I would, bookmarks are fine for that as well.
I’m building Scriffer.com as a platform to save all your thoughts on internet content. You can highlight and share pages and they’re all saved for later.
I’m thinking of adding user profiles to be able to follow people and see what they’re reading and noting too.
I’m not sure if it’s entirely a spiritual successor as I’m too young to have used del.icio.us sadly.
Built in browser bookmarks with a built in browser account (firefox account for firefox, google account for chrome)
I created one for my own usage, and I gave it for free for other to use too: https://yabs.io (Yet Another Bookmarking Service)
I always thought ausp.icio.us would have been a neat domain, shame they never did anything with that.
Call me old-fashioned, but I use Cmd-D to save bookmarks, and either the search bar or the bookmark library to organize/look through them. When I decide I want to blow away my operating system, I export my bookmarks and import them at the new incarnation.
BotMark: A Telegram bot for quick bookmarking & powerful search (works in groups as well)
For Individuals:
When you find an interesting website/article on your mobile phone, press the share button and select "botmark"—nothing more, nothing less.
For Groups:
Add "botmark" to a group and keep track of all the links in your group in one place—easy peasy.
you should try omnom, v1 has been created when del.icio.us was sold. it has been revamped into a v2 earlier this year: https://github.com/asciimoo/omnom
distinguishing features: selfhosted, in-browser-snapshots-as-currently-rendered for archival and against linkrot.
For those using Pinboard, make sure you export your bookmarks regularly so you have a local copy. I have a strange feeling the service will go bust in a number of years. It's been in maintenance mode for a while and is coasting along, but remember, services on the net are largely ephemeral and Pinboard has had a good run. That's only my gut feeling though.
I selfhost linkding (https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding) and I'm very happy with it because it got browsers plugins (firefox & chrome) so adding something to it is extremely quick (literally a couple of clicks)
I use the browser's bookmark folder or reading list as my inbox and the those that make it past the interesting threshold get tagged in my org-roam repo.
I think this is a problem crying out for a better solution though. Searchable local history with summarization and classification that respects incognito mode with good batch nuking capability.
Pocket doesn't seem good for anything that's not long text.
I mean, Pocket is great, one of the reasons I like Kobo readers is Pocket integration, and I prefer to read the articles in Pocket interface instead of the original.
But for things like YouTube videos, or comments in forums, etc., Pocket is not the best place to store these URLs long term.
Not exactly a successor, but if you want to store links and make them into a shortcut, you can use OSlash - https://www.oslash.com/
Very handy way of using your daily links such as
- o/roadmap
- o/allhands
- o/issue/{search}
I moved from del.icio.us to Google Bookmarks when they shut down. Then when that one shut down I moved to Pocket. I guess it's a 10-year-ish cycle..
I never used del.icio.us but it does appeal to me. I build my own bookmark system that I self-host. I use too many systems and browsers to use the bookmarking in browsers. I used to use Google Bookmarks but I imported everything into my own tool now.
Still working on a v2...
For business software, there are various sites where alternatives are suggested and debated.
Why does this not exist in a general form for bookmarks? I want to bookmark articles and apps and then see how they rank and if I could read a better article about the topic or use a better app.
According to wikipedia:
> On June 1, 2017, Delicious was acquired by Pinboard, and the bookmarking service was discontinued in favor of Pinboard's paid subscription-based service.
Pinboard is a bit of a HN darling, so I think you can expect a lot of recommendations for them :)
I use my browser bookmarks bar for things which I want to access frequently, Notion for stuff that I want to keep "for one day, maybe" and send a link to my email for "stuff I want to read next".
Not a single app, but works for me (so far).
If you are on the Mac, give my app Anybox a try.
It’s not a website but a native app for macOS and iOS. But the fact that it’s not a website allows many deep integrations with macOS.
https://anybox.app
I’m using Telegram for this. Create a channel, sends your bookmarked links there, use the hashtags to tag things. You can share the channel with others and you can write bots for integration with other apps/browsers.
I'm paying for Pocket because it was roughly the same price as Instapaper but also a way to finally give Mozilla money.
Side note: Mozilla, consider a paid subscription tier!
This could be an interesting use case for IPFS and maybe blockchain. I don't know how many bookmarks I have lost in dying services.
What's wrong with Instapaper. I use it to store bookmarks. IMO it's got most common requirements one would need.
I would love something which would categorise my bookmarks for me. Right now they are just one huge bucket. It ought to be possible.
Nothing seems to do that.
I use Signal's Note to Self for all my "diary" stuff, photos and links. It also works across all my devices.
I use notion to save links into a database.
pinboard is the spiritual successor. However, in general, bookmarking as a thing seems to have gone away from what it was back then when saving and sometimes sharing your bookmarks was an actual social sort of things/information pathway.
Spiritual successors are so hard to find.
I could use one for RadioUserland
and another for CityDesk
Is that what the awesome-* repos have become?
Why not just use Google bookmarks?
iCloud syncs all bookmarks in Safari seamlessly if you’re in the Apple ecosystem.
I use and love pinboard.in