My connections & network is mostly other tech workers, but so far they have at least been honest with me that they're not interested in building a company or products, they are more into enjoying fat paychecks and there's nothing wrong with that. I've tried to do the same, but I would much rather use my paychecks to give me a good runway for the next few years to fully devote to building a company. Unfortunately for me, I didn't study CS at a top uni either, so I guess whatever chance I could have had to meet people in my prime is out of grasp since I've been out of college for years now.
tl;dr where can I go to meet "serious" co-founder tier people?
No body wants to build your idea for free. For those that are reading this and thinking that finding a cofounder is actually just finding a set of hands you can work with, be buds and create your idea and you can split it 50-50 or whatever. Just stop.
These people don’t exist in the random hallways of the internet. You’re asking for someone to get on your amusement park ride of horror for a multi year commitment, risk it all at great cost on every metric imaginable.
Sorry to be a downer but anyone worth their salt won’t be willing to do that.
I would say that in today's remote-first world, building in public (and learning in public[1]) is the best way to get the attention of the stakeholders you desire -- not just prospective cofounders, but also investors, customers, partners, and contributors. (An aside -- this is one of many reasons I believe that commercial open source in particular has a very bright future.)
Some tangible ideas: Be active on twitter, start a podcast, write blog posts, stream on YT, deliver meetup/conference talks. Once you are more in the public eye, living in a Tier 1 city is the next step as it gives you a greater chance of meeting the people who discover you online!
Happy to chat more if you'd like! This subject or specific startup ideas if you're interested twitter.com/benghamine -- DM's open!
Weird experience, I would love to have another co-founder who can code together or even work together in something tbh. I guess having someone who can code with you together makes it more fun? Rather than having a product guy waiting for you to code
People there despite already being in startups were super excited and interested in other peoples businesses
I had a founder try to poach me at one point, so it’s real enough
If there’s any kind of hub for startups in your city, start there.
If not, check meetup.com or start your own. You’re certainly not alone and there’s definitely (literal) value in being the guy who brings founders together
I certainly don't think we should sit on a web bulletin board and say thing like "only get business partners from IRL networks"
I was lucky to have met my non tech cofounder at my previous employer. We remembered each other as great to work with and decided to strike out together.
What you're lookig for is super interesting to me though, and something I think about often from a variety of angles. If you ever wanna chat more in depth about you can find me email in my profile.
I'm told this game is less about what you know than about it is about who you know. And now we've met : )
Oh, and if you shop online for anything you could buy in person, start shopping IRL. Oodles of lifestyle biz or startup potential just from being friendly with store owners and employees. They love friendly tech wizards who want to solve their problems.
The amount of work it takes to bring a coding project to fruition is massive. 50+ hour work-weeks, lots of uncertainty and wasted attempts, and a ton of stress from juggling a million moving parts. All while the non-technical dude rests on his laurels and "PM"s his way through the workweek, providing general guidance in pointless meetings. This has been my experience twice and I will never work with a non-technical person again unless A) His idea is entirely groundbreaking and the chance of success is high B) He has strong marketing chops and takes care of the growth question.
The best solution I’ve seen so far is https://joinef.com , they run programs in a bunch of major cities.
A big issue with build a company is how support the people in the mean time.
So, you have enough saving, investors or low-cost of life. THEN you need the drive and talent to build something.
Is not easy to fulfill all the things!
And is common that when somebody approach me with a great idea for a company, not understand this. So the first advice is to know how value the effort and what you expect everyone to bring in return.
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I dream of build a Access/Excel/FoxPro replacement but that is a long-tail for development (maybe 2-3 years?) and assume you have some people with the skills for that.
And having the "that" that pay the bills take time. So is a chicken-egg problem.
So in the interests of finding this passion, I journal everyday. I wrote down 450 journal entries, each one is an idea for computing software or a startup.
You can find links to them on my profile.
I recommend you take up journalling and dig into your ideas and thoughts. And write things down for rereading later. Someone might like a thought you wrote and contact you. I've had people contact me and be interested in my GitHub projects.
If you want serious people, join the product hunt community.
The best answer to your question is: At work.
If you think somebody might be a good potential co-founder that you know, ask them. Don't assume that they are not interested in building something with you. You never know what people think, and even if they say no today, they might come back around in the future.
Good luck!
Another way is to start working on something of your own, get some traction, and if you still want a co-founder, it will be easier to find someone after you reduced some risk.
You can also join different startup communities and reach out to people in a genuine way to network. You'll need to have a lot of convos. I recently did this and most people were mercenaries, not founders.
Make it known to friends that you're looking for one and ask them if they can recommend people.
It's a major commitment to work with a co-founder so there's no reason to rush it.
Make sure to go through this if you think you found someone who might be a fit: https://proof-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/firstround/50%20Questi...
Or you could talk to me: https://twitter.com/BallerIndustry
If you want to find someone serious to work with, at least bang out a walking skeleton, a prototype or some kind of proof of concept to show your idea..
That achieves two things, easier to convince a dev that the idea is neat.. And also shows that you got enough passion for this that you actually went ahead and built something.
It's better to be hungry and scrappy than born with a silver spoon and well-connected, although the rare combination of raw ambition tied with excellent connections is the ideal.
Worst case you bust out but your skills are 10x from the FAANG clock punchers. Good luck out there
I also think working at early-ish startups, Series A-C, will help you find people more interested in the founder path than FAANG type companies. From there you can work on something growing fast, learn a domain, test your relationship under pressure, and then leave to start something together.
1. Meet potential benefactors
2. Establish a reputation for making something, shipping it AND…make a profit with it.
3. Have great idea
4. Ask one of the benefactors to fund you.
5. Bonus points: meet benefactors NOT obsessed with going public / liquidity events but would rather own companies to help build other companies
6. Remember when negotiating your stake, 100% of $0 = $0. Definitely negotiate what you’re worth, see item 2 for increasing your worth.
But one thing I worry about is, assuming most companies don't live longer than a year or two, staying in the fields of early staged companies would essentially be the synonym to hopping around there, to me feels like to result in horrible resume.
How do you guys deal with this?
Also mention that you want to do this on Twitter (etc.) and then by just engaging someone might reach out to you. Also look out for people doing the same.
But if you make a bit of a start and talk about the idea itself, perhaps you'll happen across someone as passionate about the area as you.
(Armchair advice with no experience...)
I didn’t pay for membership. Turned out it wasn’t necessary to make those initial connections.
The tough thing is that anybody can call themselves an entrepreneur. There’s no barrier for entry, so you’ll get a lot of jokers.
Find meetup groups and start social networking in them. Try the startup, computer science, programming, business, etc meetup groups.
It's sort of like dating. Fit and alignment are everything.
2. Start building. It will attract people. Don't go out and find them.