HACKER Q&A
📣 AhmedMujtaba

Does this idea make any sense?


Hi there, I would like to get your perspective on this idea, does it make sense?, I happen to think dev shops are broken, and this may be a better approach, let me know your thoughts?

https://www.rebaseapps.com


  👤 mirthturtle Accepted Answer ✓
I don't think the math works. $5k + $500/m, for 6 months: that tops out at $160,000 yearly revenue for the 20 projects. Even if it's the same 4 employees spread across all projects, that's $40k yearly salary each as a base. Sounds bad!

It'd take years for any winning bets to pay off and I don't know how you'd pay your employees.


👤 yessirwhatever
Dev shops aren't broken, and this idea does not make sense. No quality work can come out of it, and honestly it sounds more like a trap or a funnel for scammers to front as entrepreneurs.

👤 jot
I've worked in a similar way to this in the past and at similar price points.

Most of the time I ended up with one of two kinds of founder:

1) Very price senstive with a lack of investment mindset. With that kind of budget they would have been better off investing in themselves to either: a) Learn to code or develop some other valuable skills. b) Build a profitable service business.

2) Very busy running another business without the time to do the work of finding customers. They would have been better off either: a) Focusing on growing their current service business. b) Creating a non-software product such as a course, book, templates or a newsletter.

In general non-developers need to be prepared to invest at least an order of magnitude more than that. Any less and it's unlikely they'll take it seriously enough to succeed.

This is assuming you are aiming at clients with North American/European levels of purchasing power.


👤 alkonaut
Yes, so long as

1) the pay for the technical tesm is in a country where you can pay sub $25k/yr (which is most countries on the planet but rules out North America or most of Europe). Because there won’t be enough money to pay much more.

2) So long as all these projects are technically simple. Don’t be an incubator for new ideas. Make CRUD apps for orgs that want to replace a spreadsheet instead.

But as some kind of incubator or operating in EU/US? No.


👤 superb-owl
I can't imagine getting anything decent for that level of pay. Unless you're essentially a venture fund making long bets on that 5% equity and you have a ton of upfront funding.

👤 Kenneth39
The site has zero google ranking. It looks like it was created just yesterday. In addition, there is no any information, no portfolio. Very doubtful project. Although, it may be really ambitious idea. But so far, all I see is a scam.

👤 superb-owl
Is that technical team spread across all ten projects? If so that's basically 4h per week per company, barely enough to remember what they're building.

👤 potamic
You might want to showcase your profile and what makes you valuable. Differentiating on commercials might work, but I hope you're aware of risks that come with fixed billing.

Also, that pricing sounds insane for a 4 people team. You're probably not looking for engagements that last more than a month, but even with that I don't know how you can make decent income to pay the team.


👤 foobiekr
Honestly how is this different from a very expensive offshoring provider?

👤 reflect
This might be a way to get a post-mvp idea that was built using No-Code/Low-Code to a code base but for a new unproven idea I would say buyer-beware, unlikely to get you what you want.

👤 sickmartian
Really depends on where you are I guess, but I found no info about you in the link.. also the top right link that says how many spots are left sends me to google.

👤 thenerdhead
There has been an uprise of agencies/studios/dev shops trying to make their offering "limited" and thus promoting some fear of missing out by feigning scarcity.

I think these ideas can be creative, but I feel bad for those who can't do the math for themselves and also build the team/contractors that would likely make them successful in the long run.

More and more "startups" are just disguised digital agencies.


👤 arrow7000
Is this your startup?

👤 RonaldOlzheim
multiple perceptions Example youtube

1: Value creation --> pro it creates low entrey --> con You need to get in --> Overal I don´t think it´s a smart move to let people decide if something is going to valueble when they are not the valid expert in a certain domain --> This video explains it = https://youtu.be/8ZHLCDCPo_U?t=2253

2: Economical --> pro basicly everyone can start --> con everyone can start --> Overal i think it´s hard to overcome bias. The best way to outperform thoughts and words of bias is to look at actions over time.

3: short term vs long term --> pro it´s intresting in downturn markets for singles now --> con but singles can build easier faster even in downturn markets. --> Overal

= I think internal motivation and timing are key.

The single biggest reason why start-ups succeed | Bill Gross https://youtu.be/bNpx7gpSqbY?t=324


👤 ImPleadThe5th
Where's the portfolio? Someone is supposed to take their word on some text and a picture.

What issues do you have with dev shops? How does this solve those issues? How do you even know if this solves the issues, there is literally no information?

What tech stack do they work with? If I have my own engineers how do I know what you are going to offload to them?


👤 justsomeuser
I do not think it is a good idea because the people building the project have no skin in the game.

Your initial ideas need constant iteration as you interact with reality to see what works.

A team that will leave in a few months for the next thing have no incentive for iteration or great execution - both which are needed to interact with reality to find something that works.


👤 rodolphoarruda
I like the idea! However, the price is challenging for Latin American founders like me who are currently in bootstrap mode.

👤 amelius
If they provide the technical input, how do you prevent them from just stealing your idea?

👤 balderdash
If this isn’t a scam - it’s a bad idea.

Either the founder is going to pay way too much/get too little, or pay too little/get too much these services.

Not to mention the incentives for bad behavior are enormous.


👤 conqrr
I'm looking for something similar for a sales cofounder. Someone who could help validate and pitch Saas Ideas and get a commitment on subscription, before I develop the product.

👤 kc10
$5000 + $499* 6 for 4 resources/6 months. That's $333 per resource per month.

I don't expect good resources to be available for $333 per month anywhere.


👤 foobiekr
No.