Starting a Blackhat Podcast

Hello! I am in the process of starting a podcast about "the reality of blackhat hacking", I have set up the brand/ website, promotion, roadmap, plans, now I'm looking for a REAL blackhat hacker to interview.

I've tried the /d/Hacking subdread, however it's just full of newbies who want to "Hire a hitman" etc. I know a few people on discord who are black-hats, however they are only in white-hat servers like The-Eye and TryHackMe where discussion of illegal activity is not allowed and they are unwilling to discuss their actions in DM's

Are you aware of discord servers, IRC channels or matrix rooms populated with black-hats that I could talk to or possibly call? If so, please comment

I used to be in the scene in 2016-17 (early years of raidforums) I made a few RAT's disguised as cheat software (luckily I came to my senses and stopped making malware), i've checked "breached.to" (its successor) however im having trouble finding actual hackers.

I am aware of forums like breached.to, nulled.to, cracked.io, v3rmill, blackhatworld, if someone knows of good threads/ sub-forums on those sites please comment