HACKER Q&A
📣 lawgimenez

What news subscription is worth it?


My NYTimes subscription is ending next month and I am looking for another news subscription. What news publication is it worthwhile to subscribe to? I’ve read horror stories about dark patterns in cancellation so that should also factor in.

I’m not sure if anyone noticed but NYTimes’ quality has gone downhill for the past 2-3 years and why is there no dark mode on the app? WSJ looks good but there are issues with cancellation.

Edit: I am from Southeast Asia and got lots of family and relatives in the USA, so the obvious interest in Western and EU culture and politics.


  👤 rootusrootus Accepted Answer ✓
I once subscribed to NYT. Canceling required a phone call, and the guy laughed out loud at me when I refused what amounted to a nearly free 6 month extension. Made me so mad, they'll never have me as a customer again.

I also decided I would never buy another subscription to a news site that also has advertising. In my perception, ads seem to be predictive of low quality journalism.

Most recently I've had an Economist subscription. I like them. They don't make canceling as easy as subscribing, and I do hold that against them, though they aren't as terrible as NYT.

But honestly, I let that subscription lapse and I don't buy any news right now. I actively avoid it, in fact. My sanity and happiness needed a break from the drip-drip-drip of negative stressful world events that I have exactly zero control over.


👤 azalemeth
If you want something very British, Private Eye is an absolute blast. It's only available in dead-tree form and has a lot of real, high quality investigative journalism sprinkled in amongst the cartoons and satire. You can get a fairly good idea if you'll like it from their website [1].

The podcast, Page 94, is also excellent [2] and is sparsely updated, but they do good things when it is. For an example of the "WTFBBQ" stories they cover, have a look at "The Snooty Fox" episode [3], which covers the rather horrid tale of a pub landlord who pissed off a council member by accidentally overcharging her, and ended up punitively investigated by the food standards people, bankrupted and quite literally imprisoned for several years. He finally secured justice after more than 20 years when the council authority ceased to exist (and its successor apologised hugely and unreservedly – his convictions were quashed and later counter-sued for £14m [4]).

One other thing – cancelling the subscription is trivial.

[1] https://www.private-eye.co.uk/ [2] https://www.private-eye.co.uk/podcast [3] https://www.private-eye.co.uk/podcast/68 [4] https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1547675/pub-landlord-the-s...


👤 gordon_freeman
For anyone claiming NYT quality has gone downhill should try and read this article: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/05/08/arts/design/d...

This article has single handedly ignited my interest in arts and paintings. This is just an example but in general what I find great about NYT is the way they do storytelling with mixture of interactive visualization and text-based news and facts.


👤 n8cpdx
+1 Economist

- When they cover something I’m knowledgeable about, they get the facts right, so I trust them in other areas

- App lets me listen to the weekly edition read by humans

- Only comes out weekly (so no daily bullshit treadmill, and they have time to get things right)

- Genuinely useful and interesting info. Since I switched from NYT to the Economist it’s like I have supernatural powers to see into the future; nothing surprises me anymore. Recent issues where I knew what was coming months to weeks before others: COVID, post-COVID inflation, Ukraine

I listened to the podcasts for months before paying to subscribe, and the podcasts (The Intelligence and Economist Asks are favorites) cover some of the content of the weekly edition. If you like the podcasts, you’ll love the genuine article.


👤 tacker2000
I read the Financial Times and The Economist. I think they are pretty well researched without leaning in a specific direction too much. The comments on FT are also mostly very civil, with good discussion.

The Guardian is “intelligent” but is way too blatantly leftist, to get any sort of balanced information.


👤 bluenose69
TheGuardian.com is worth it, in my opinion. It's not expensive, and it gives world news, not just national news. The proofreading on the website is not impressive, though, compared with the weekly paper version (to which I also subscribe).

I've also had WP and NYT subscriptions, and I think these are fine choices. One thing, though: I found it quite difficult to cancel my NYT subscription. Subscriptions are like hash functions -- easy in one direction and hard in the other.


👤 sofixa
Another vote for FT ( Financial Times). Pricey, but reporting is good and covers a vast arrays of topics and geos ( i can read about FC Barcelona's financial troubles, the fall of the latest Bulgarian cabinet and why that's going to end bad, an investigative report about fraud in Wirecard, etc. and it will be in decent depth), is factually correct and gets updated when it isn't.

👤 jeramey
If you're in the Apple ecosystem, subscribing and unsubscribing to several of these news sources, so long as you read them in Apple's News app, becomes a lot easier, though it can be more expensive than going direct to the publisher. But hey, you get dark mode! And no major hassle when you want to stop a subscription!

As far as quality of news, I'd echo the sentiment others have given that Wall Street Journal's factual reporting is stellar, but their opinion and editorial pieces leave a lot to be desired. I'd say the same about The Washington Post and Los Angeles Times.

The Atlantic is decent for thoughtful editorials as can be The New Yorker, but honestly, you're just going to run into some sensationalism and knee-jerk, politically-motivated slant no matter what editorial/opinion sources you choose, so caveat emptor.


👤 sbf501
Another vote for The Economist.

It is a weekly publication with good writers. Meaning: it is rarely, if ever, sensational, and covers prominent issues around the globe so I stay informed after about 60 minutes of reading. I still haven't figured out which way the editorial staff swings because they do a good job of keeping explicit bias out, but they seem to be left of center.

I also subscribe to The Atlantic. They are solid long-form reporting, but occasionally they get a really far-out article.

I used to get The Baffler, great out-of-the-box ideas, but the content was too depressing.


👤 techgnosis
I live in Seattle and pay for The Seattle Times. Anyone who can afford their local paper should probably subscribe. I learn a lot about how Seattle works from the paper. You can get federal news anywhere, that is boring. Make sure you are informed about local and state issues.

👤 nathancahill
A lot of the suggestions here are for USA national or local regional news. For international news, Foreign Policy (foreignpolicy.com) is excellent. It avoids the "Breaking News" noise trap and instead explains the context and significance of world events. Largely apolitical with a slight slant of liberal internationalism.

👤 starwind
I have subscriptions to the Economist (never had a problem pausing or canceling my subscription), the Athletic for sports (they always give me a huge discount when I try to cancel), and since the war in Ukraine started I have subscriptions the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal for $4/month each (those will be a pain in the ass to cancel).

If you're worried about canceling and getting billed, put it on a credit card, and if you still get billed dispute the charge as "unauthorized" and block the merchant


👤 fullshark
None, there's no reason to follow the news. You're better off reading history books if you want to understand geopolitics / finance / whatever.

👤 prash_ant
Subscription to your regional or local newspaper will help you connect more with your community. We have so many wonderful regional newspapers. You can choose from your region.

  - Los Angeles Times
  - Chicago Tribune
  - The Boston Globe
  - San Francisco Chronicle
  - Miami Herald
  - Dallas Observer
  - Houston Chronicle
  - Denver Post
  - Star Tribune

👤 mellosouls
There are some good writers on dedicated subscription platforms, unfortunately forking out for several of them quickly costs substantially more than a single one to a "legacy" provider.

Example: For an alternative view into US politics to some of the hopelessly biased mainstream platforms you could try Tangle, but that's just one unfortunately.

https://www.readtangle.com/

It would be nice if you could collate several of those sort together but I guess that's what the old style providers are still good at.


👤 wollsmoth
I'm actually fairly happy with NYT. They still cover most topics, although generally I agree they aren't as great as they were. They are pretty much my local paper too I guess.

I like to stop by a news stand and pick up an Atlantic, or New Yorker from time to time, and whatever else seems interesting.


👤 sdsaga12
This all depends on how you're approaching the question. Why do you want to read the news?

What do you hope to get out of it? You're absolutely right that the NYT has changed in recent years, but that change has been part of systemic shifts that have affected all of journalism as it existed before the internet.

For most outlets, "the news" is now substantially more infotainment and in-group sermonizing than it used to be. Buzzfeed-y clickbait and Facebook-y rageporn juice engagement numbers like little else. Competition for your attention online is fierce and, with access to alternatives at the click of a button, audiences have very little appetite to continue reading an outlet that publishes things they don't agree with.

Are you looking to stay abreast of conversational topics in certain social circles? Are you looking for high-quality information that will help you form more accurate predictions about the world? If so, what types of predictions are most important to you? Economic? Social? Political?

Do you like your facts presented in an editorialized fashion or do you want events to be reported without being nudged to feel one way or another about them? Do you just want a news source that provides fun stuff to read? Do you read the news because you're not very into sports and books are too long? (I've been there in life.) How important are polish and sleek UIs to you? Do you want to read content that goes down easy or do you want to survey a broad set of views on subjects to know what other people are thinking even if some of that makes you angry or confused?

This is maybe not quite what you're looking for, but I'd use this decision as an opportunity to step back and reflect on the bigger question of why you want a subscription to a news publication in the first place.

Once you have the answer to some of those questions, that should help narrow down your search.

If you're interested in some articles that further reflect on changes in the news, I'd recommend these two: https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/its-all-just-displaceme... and https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-news-is-americas-new-relig...


👤 WalterBright
I let my NYT subscription lapse because their articles were clearly pushing an agenda rather than reporting the news.

I now subscribe to the WSJ. That way I can get the business and financial news I'm interested in by people who are educated in business and finance, rather than activism.


👤 Tepix
Are you willing to look beyond US issues? Check out Le Monde Diplomatique https://mondediplo.com/

👤 AdmiralAsshat
Anyone aware of any news or magazines subscriptions that distribute their issues with EPUB as an option? I like to do my reading on a Kobo, and EPUB is supposed to be the standard for such things, even though it seems like 95% of magazines use a Kindle format or a PDF for their digital stuff.

The only publication I'm aware of was Linux Journal back in the day, but it's gone now.


👤 tootie
Main ones are NYT and Economist. I don't see how the NYT has gone downhill as much as they have broadened a bit into some less serious stuff. Their mainstream news coverage is still second to none.

Otherwise, I lean towards non-profit news like NPR and local affiliates, ProPublica, The Markup, Grist. They all cost nothing, but monthly gifts are accepted.


👤 di4na
The Financial Times is the best Western generalist publication by far.

It is... hard to do better.


👤 mancerayder
I canceled the NYT about two years ago when I felt the paper took what seemed like a closed-minded and inflammatory turn in order to 'take a stand' and appeal to its subscribers. I don't care how cheap it got, I could no longer support a paper like that (after many years of doing so).

I try to stick to the financial press since the financial press has an interest in objective facts at least some of the time, since its readers use the information to inform investment decisions. WSJ and Bloomberg. I had an FT subscription, which I think is much better than the previous two (especially for international news and commentary), but it's also quite pricey.


👤 gordon_freeman
For daily News: WSJ and NYT

For global news: The Economist (simply the best!)

For Science news: National Geographic (more on photography and travel side), Scientific American (A little more hard science but especially good to keep up with space related scientific progress)


👤 etchalon
I'd recommend the Economist. It's a lot less US centric. It is more expensive.

👤 zendaven
I am very happy with https://newsasfacts.com/. It helps me to catch up on global events in usually under a minute.

👤 bergenty
The NY Times. I get annoyed with their obviously feminist agenda in some articles but I just skip those. Their methodology is stellar though and the articles are well researched and in-depth.

👤 Bhilai
WSJ, if you can ignore their editorial page, which is so blatantly biased and promotes so much false information that it is a surprise its a part of the same news organization.

👤 runjake
I'd recommend avoiding the news. As far as I can tell, the news exists to sell ads.

That said, if you still want to read the news and have access to an Apple device, why not consider Apple News+? It's just about the only news service I'm aware of where you can cancel your subscription without any hassle and you get multiple news sources to boot.

NYT, WSJ, Economist and all the other commonly-recommended news places are a hassle to cancel.


👤 chewmieser
Really love the Apple News+ subscription. Includes a ton of content including WSJ.

I also subscribe separately to NYT & Washington Post. All great options.


👤 wolverine876
> I’m not sure if anyone noticed but NYTimes’ quality has gone downhill for the past 2-3 years

This has been said every year for my entire life. I would keep the NY Times, but also:

* The Financial Times is on the NY Times level IMHO, but far more expensive

* The Wall Street Journal is published by the same people behind Fox News. It's Fox News for the elite - framed in ways appealing to them, and trading on an old established brand. Same results, IME.

* The Economist can be fantastic in terms of knowledge gained / minute. It's ideologically free-market - applying that tool to every situation. And it's not actually journalism, it's analysis: They generally don't dig up stories, interview people, etc. They summarize and analyze.

* The Washington Post is nearly on the NYT level, IMHO.

* Maybe The Guardian?

That's it. Nothing else worth paying for (in English).


👤 binbag
The Financial Times is really good. It's not just about finance, don't worry. It's the most balanced and informative news source I've ever read. It's a little expensive but it's worth it. Been a subscriber for about 3 years now.

👤 aenis
I like bloomberg. Good signal to noise ratio. They generally only cover topics which move money markets, and thus have a real impact on me. Its not cheap but aside from HN thats my only source of news for a better part of a decade.

👤 Goosee
If you own apple devices try Apple News+

Here are the included publications: https://www.apple.com/apple-news/publications/


👤 xref
Ars Technica is only $25/yr and has a lot of deep knowledge on specific topics

👤 mlinksva
Not a subscription, but in the competition for my time, I like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events -- it fills a similar role for me as the Economist did in another era (I used to read the paper version religiously) -- globalish coverage of important events, some pleasurable idiosyncracies, bias toward Western culture and politics due to language and authors.

LWN.net is the only news subscription I can recommend without reservation, but of course it's not general news. :)


👤 throw457
Get a library card and most media including newspapers and magazines are free… Libby is also a really great and performant app and on top you get books, audiobooks, some video and audio streaming it’s an incredible value.

👤 verdverm
NASA Spaceflight on YT, all things space news

https://www.youtube.com/c/NASASpaceflightVideos


👤 crossroadsguy
I used to subscribe to Newsweek when it was marketed and printed in India and at non-USD prices. Tried New Yorker as well. Slowly it started becoming apparent they’re just American magazines mostly only about America somehow or the other and Newsweek stopped India print operations anyway.

Now it’s just Caravan monthly, Outlook weekly (Indian magazines). Biblio (Indian book review magazine).

I only read printed news. It’d be nice to subscribe to a few (better) International printed magazines. The ones that really covers the globe.


👤 o_nate
I still subscribe to NY Times online, but in the past couple of years I added a paper subscription to the FT, even though I'm in the US, and it tends to be a bit UK-centric. The paper subscription is their cheapest option, otherwise I would've gone with online. I actually read more news from the FT than the Times now, even though it tends to be about a day late, due to printing/editorial cycle etc, but I find it covers more of what I'm interested in. YMMV

👤 Hel5inki
I went from WSJ to Barron’s to Barron’s and Bloomberg to now just Bloomberg. As far as unsubscribing from any of those I haven’t found it too difficult

👤 sshine
Hacker News, $0/mo.

For following the war in Ukraine, I used "TLDR Daily":

https://www.youtube.com/c/TLDRDaily

https://open.spotify.com/show/3yoF2Uwd1JQsErhBHnGQKD?si=pk3F...


👤 throwaway98797
Wall Street Journal

If I had more time I’d do Financial Times as well.


👤 yakak
I found PressReader's offer pretty interesting and would probably be using its premium plan if I were seriously going to read 1-2 papers on an average day to be able to regularly try out different sources. Buying individual papers on it seemed a bit expensive but is better than going a-la-carte on individual sites and needing to avoid the resulting spam, etc.

👤 Melatonic
I really like subscribing to the actual Sunday delivery of a physical paper. Choose your poison. Go read it at a local coffee shop or farmers market or something and then watch as people everywhere look at you like your some kind of crazy person.

Old people love it though - plus you can give it to someone else once your done!

Also when was the last time you read The Funnies?


👤 wdr1
I was a longtime NYT subscriber who cancelled a few years ago. I switched to the WSJ & have been pretty happy with it.

👤 PopAlongKid
No mention so far of any weekly newsmagazines. TIME is from the old school and not very good for actual news these days, but decades ago it was much better.

Also, The Week is a well-edited digest of the best of U.S and international news sources, albeit with a U.S. liberal slant at times. And no ads, except maybe inside front & back covers.


👤 beardyw
Guardian. Amazing value.

👤 2OEH8eoCRo0
I do NYT Sunday delivery as well as The New Yorker, Economist, and The Atlantic print editions.

I think that I enjoy The Atlantic and The New Yorker the most but Economist and NYT are more information dense.

I mostly read my news in print, offline, and don't bother with the apps except I do like the live coverage on NYT app.


👤 cosmodisk
Financial Times and Bloomberg. While I'm not a fan,the Economist gives good coverage on global events.

👤 Gortal278
WSJ! Subscribe through your app store of choice and you can cancel on the app store listing page of choice.

👤 res0nat0r
New Yorker is kind of expensive, but a new issue every week with usually a very interesting and long 10-12 page in depth article is great. I look forward to a new issue arriving in my mailbox every week.

The Washington Post is only $5/month if you're an Amazon Prime member.


👤 pyrophane
Financial Times

Economist

NY Times (I disagree that it has gone downhill)

The New Yorker


👤 t0bia_s
I personaly quit reading any news. Those really important gets to me from differnet sources (friends or here on HN). I rather invest my time to read articles on various topics, philosophy, art... RSS helps to get feed of very interesting ideas.

👤 insickness
Ground (https://ground.news/) attempts to deliver news while allowing readers to compare how media outlets with different political ideologies are covering stories.

👤 awillen
I recommend Axios - the have a number of free, topic-specific daily newsletters. They're quick reads and well put together, and they usually link out to more detailed reporting on stuff that merits further reading.

👤 DeathArrow
I came across a guy who reads all the most important news outlets, selects all the important articles, makes digests and sends a news letter daily. It is subscription based.

I just have to find it in my tens of thousands of bookmarks. :(


👤 nomilk
None.

I set up shell twitter accounts for each issue I'm interested in, follow all the relevant people, take a month or so to adjust by deleting irritating flame baiters and accumulate a few sharers of high quality information.

Twitter's algorithm recommends a bunch of similar content, but because I only follow one issue per twitter account, it's all (or mostly) on topic, without distractions.

Use web archive to get around paywalls, uBlock Origin to remove the irrelevant parts of the twitter web UI, and Video Speed Controller to quickly watch video content at 2, 3, or 4x speed.

This gives a quick, easy, and extremely effective way to scan important info on a topic. Since many "news" sites get their material from social media anyway, you just get the "news" a little earlier than everyone else by going to source. It's more cumbersome than Zite (remember that?), but very effective.

For this to work you must be ruthless about navigating around attention sinks (like worthless twitter squabbles).


👤 giancarlostoro
I personally only reallt pay for WSJ and I guess Apple News but indirectly I am not a fan of Apple News since a number of articles feel politically biased. I just want raw facts not opinion pieces.

👤 Havoc
I like FT and economist for the podcasts. Between them they push out just enough podcast for me to listen to everything and have it not be overwhelming in volume.

👤 lelawobu
I have been happy with Inkl for several years. Curated access to many mainstream sources, including Guardian, Atlantic, Forbes, Financial Times, et al.

👤 Apreche
The ones that are the most worth-it tend to be trade publications. Of course, they are only worth it to people who are in that particular industry.

👤 billfruit
A recent post here a few weeks before gave me the impression that LRB subscription is quite worthwhile. Not exactly the "news" though.

👤 whatwhatintheb
I subscribe to the print edition of Jacobin. It's the only one I think is worth paying for these days. Everything else is either pushing scam reflinks (NYT, CNN, etc), complete garbage content (Fox and the like), or straight up falsehoods.

For everything else I evade paywalls either using the bypass paywalls extension or some other method. I explicitly refuse to pay for the content because I want to see these businesses die, and consuming their content without giving them money is one way to help accelerate their demise.

We're in the scam stage of late stage capitalism, and between the climate crisis and the slow decline into populist fascism, our best hope as a species is degrowth.


👤 robwwilliams
Killed the NYT and added Foreign Affairs. Focus is on non-ephemeral news. Longer pieces than the Economist but at about the same depth.

👤 calderwoodra
I subscribe to The New Paper, it's good enough to stay up to date while still being concise and non-partisan 99/100 times.

👤 mrsaint
Tried various news sources, but got stuck w/ the following subscriptions: Washington Post, Financial Times & The Economist.

👤 jlbbellefeuille
I like The Information.

https://www.theinformation.com

I have been intrigued by Axios.


👤 pneumatic1
The Economist and only read the print edition.

👤 Ir0nMan
WSJ and signup with a privacy.com virtual credit card that you can easily pause/cancel/limit anytime.

👤 someluccc
Financial Times is #1 by far. WSJ is a good second option. Perhaps subscribe with a virtual card you can cancel?

👤 pluram4815

👤 achow
Perhaps unrelated..

Is theinformation.com really worth it for $33/month?

They seem to publish tech stories which do not appear anywhere else.


👤 alexalx666
Opening front pages of Bloomberg, FT and WSJ will give you pretty good picture of what’s going on for free

👤 jyu
there's way too much news in too many categories. i can't spend the necessary amount of time to become an expert in those areas. patreon and substack seem like a decent alternative to support and consume news in niches.

👤 sgent
I really like Business Week but IDK how hard it is to cancel (have it through Apple News).

👤 Bhurn00985
Le Monde Diplomatique is in my opinion the best for in-depth quality journalism.

👤 ricardoplouis
Try to support your local news service first if possible.

👤 jokethrowaway
Standard journalism is often lacking in details. I don't think they're worth a subscription.

I think you'll get more in depth news by subscribing to politicised commentators, possibly on both sides of the spectrum.

You'll get way more focus on different details (of course to support their point of view) and you'll actually get to experience what newspapers felt like in the 90s, before they turned into left wing outrage and ad click machines.

I think this would help you understand where your values lie on any issue and will reduce polarization.


👤 danieldevries
Financial Times

👤 baby_angel
The guardian and NPR (they're free)

👤 andsoitis
Axios. Free. More objective than most.

👤 somberi
I subscribe to :

The Economist

The Guardian (voluntary)

Financial Times

Barron’s

WSJ

Cook’s Illustrated

NY Times

Bloomberg

I find each of them useful in their own way.


👤 masterof0
Maybe not what OP is looking for, but for folks who can't afford news subscriptions I would recommend (https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome).

👤 kornhole
Always subscribe with a virtual card with limit such as privacy.com. cancellation is as easy as a click to turn off card.

Pay the creators you want to keep creating and pirate the rest. I let you determine who to support. Use bypass paywalls extension or 12ft.io for the rest.


👤 Aeolun
I pay for a physical copy of the Japan Times and New York Times. They come bundled, but I barely ever read the New York Times.

I doubt it is relevant for you, but I’ve been happy with the Japan Times.


👤 redorb
archive.ph

👤 Komodai
None.