Tesla owners – what's your feedback

I bought my Model 3 SR+ about 18 months ago before all the price increases. I love my car, but I would not buy it again at the price they are asking now.

I also don't love the hype machine side of Tesla around future products and features. "Full Self Driving" is so close to fraud I'm shocked the FTC hasn't investigated or sanctioned them already. Semi, Roadster 2.0, and Cybertruck are all vapourware and have been for years.

The pros: Very sharp steering. Driver profiles that set the seats, steering wheel, and mirrors are excellent. Every other car maker that limits you to 2 or 3 presets is blow away by just how easy Tesla makes it in the UI to have as many profiles as you need. Supercharger network is great, especially since you simply drive up and plug in. Backup camera is excellent. Preheating/cooling from the app is delightful.

Cons: Model 3 should have been a liftback. Ride can be a bit harsh on rougher tarmac. Not being able to charge at CCS stations is a disappointment (fixed in the EU thanks to directives). Paint colours are way too expensive. Autopilot and FSD drive like drunk teenagers; do not trust at all. Phantom braking while in adaptive cruise is annoying. Road and wind noise are quite noticeable compared to other cars of similar price. Headrests don't adjust and the rear ones can't be removed for better visibility. Rearview mirror is tiny for no reason. Touch screen only interface is annoying sometimes. I'd like some hard buttons for some key systems like wipers and HVAC.

If I was buying today I'd get a Hyundai Ionic 5.

We bought a M3LR about 9 months back. The main reason was it was our only car and we had range anxiety, so access to the supercharger network and 330 miles of range made us comfortable enough to make the EV plunge.

Now that we're comfortable driving EVs, our next car wouldn't be a Tesla.

The car itself is nice and i don't really care at all about visual stuff that people seem to get up in arms about (panel gaps, etc). It's more that I'm not a fan of walled garden products and Tesla seems happy to call themselves the apple of cars. Proprietary charging cables, service centers, insurance... I do hate dealerships though, so I'm hoping other manufacturers follow their lead on that.

The important parts of the car work well, the over the air updates to noticably improve it are cool, and i do think their approach to self driving is the most sensible to get their first. Still i think level 4 or 5 autonomous driving will be a lot farther out than they'd like customers to believe and their marketing for it as Full Self Driving is borderline fraud in its current state.

They're huge milk floats. As someone who has only ever owned two cars (1L Citroen and a 3L m240i), and who has driven a Model 3, I can say for sure that internal combustion cars have a lot more character and are more fun to drive, with relatively comparable performance if considering their price when new.

As far as "worth buying" - what do you think? A forty five thousand dollar product that does the exact same thing as others that cost three thousand, albeit with running costs significantly lower. Those running costs don't add up to making Model 3s better than cheap used ICE cars that get 30+mpg.

I don't understand the mentality of people who want a "good value", "worth buying" vehicle yet wish to buy new - I'm not fully up-to-speed about the corporate/tax benefits of doing so, but I know that a personal choice to buy a new vehicle while paying VAT is one of the worst decisions you'll make in your life.

That being said, my impression of the Model 3 is as follows:

- The interior is not as premium as I'd expect for the price tag, and the quality control issues are unacceptable.

- It can be a performant little milk float, and seems genuinely well engineered from a drivetrain/battery point of view (E.G. Nissan Leafs of the same age seem to have significantly worse battery lifetimes, presumably because of their under-engineered battery health management).

- Driving-wise, it's zippy, and the suspension feels much nicer on British roads (think: Swiss cheese) than my m240i (though people online claim that BMW purposefully made my generation's m240i's suspension horrible).

- Infotainment has a bunch of useless crap that no one should care about. Significantly more tacky than what my beamer has, and nowhere near the quality nor well integrated nature of the Audi infotainment/digital features. That being said, if you want to talk overpriced vehicles, Audi seems to be the king in that respect.

2020 Model 3 LR. Absolutely, yes. Best automotive software you will ever use, very fun to drive, which I do rarely because Autopilot/FSD does most of the driving these days, amazing sound system and really comfortable seats.

I've driven all over the US with this car. I hated road tripping before getting it.

I'm waiting for my comp to go up slightly so I can trade in my wife's car for a 2022 or 2023 Model S Long Range and give her the Model 3. (I never lease; always finance.)

Unless Ford seriously catches up in the software and autonomy space, I'm not buying anything other than a Tesla.

Nope. Fun to drive sure... but overrated and quality has gone down. Those panel gaps, yikes. Source: Former engineer for Tesla.

> This is only for Tesla owners, so please don't post if you're not one. Are Tesla really good and worth buying today ?

Almost asking a barber if you need a hair cut.

The Teslas are fine. The FSD (Fools Self Driving) software is a scam.

I love not worrying about gas prices or oil changes. The car is fast, handles great and quite practical, and the connected features (app control, Spotify etc) are very nice. Autopilot (not to be confused with Full Self Driving) is standard and it is great for highway drives and traffic jams. DOnt need to subsidize Putin or terrorist regimes to fuel it. And environmental brownie points. I have no regrets buying one. That said, the legacy automakers are catching up very fast. There are some compelling alternatives to most of the Tesla model line and more coming within the next couple model years. I did not buy it for status or cult membership, in fact I loath the hardcore Tesla and Elon Stans. I think the legacy makers will eat Tesla’s lunch within 10 years but there are enough out on the road that I don’t worry about parts or support.

Maybe you should find a car forum or subreddit. This is not a HN question.