HACKER Q&A
📣 tiffanyh

How’s iCloud Private Relay?


Anyone been using iCloud Private Relay and if so, can you share how’s it’s been?


  👤 i2shar Accepted Answer ✓
For me it's got very limited use, if at all. My primary browser is Firefox with ublock, multi-containers etc. but Private Relay won't work with it. Also, my home network has a Pi-Hole and I have to manually change my DNS to a public one if I want to enable Private Relay. So for a privacy use case, with browser fingerprinting and all, there's the tradeoff that you can hide your IP but have to give up on the Pi-Hole protection. All ads start showing up in Safari. I'd rather go with a VPN that tunnels all computer traffic except DNS. FWIW, this is my poor man's VPN with a free Google Cloud micro instance used as a socks proxy with Firefox:

  ssh user@IP -N -C -q -f -D 1234

👤 shuckles
I’ve had it on since it was available, and it’s almost entirely invisible except for a higher rate of captchas, some banking applications re-requiring 2FA on log in from otherwise known devices, and Twitter missing caches for my auth state and rendering some pages randomly with a logged out view.

👤 ppetty
I often see a Notification that says something like you are now using iCloud Private Relay, but no persistent indication when I’m not. Seems like an icon similar to Wi-Fi, cell or vpn should be to the right of the notch to make it easier to see status.

When it is running I don’t notice additional latency of two extra hops, and that’s in conjunction with 1Blocker filtering traffic too.

It would be awesome to see some more scientific analysis… or metrics. I’m sure lots of people are using VPN (for work) possibly with Private Relay & a blocker (or too).


👤 kylehotchkiss
It’s transparent, fast, and easy to forget it’s on. I wish Apple would place a more obvious indicator regarding its status in safari. It gets flipped off when joining a wifi network with captive portal for example. Sadly not enabled in third party apps where in my opinion is much more needed for hiding IP addresses.

Seems like a good tech for the average user to gain some privacy over navigating the web directly, but by no means a privacy tool for anybody with more serious privacy needs.


👤 reaperducer
Like many Apple things, it's transparent, so you don't even remember it's working until it doesn't work. I've only had two problems:

1. I can't log in or pay a bill on att.com. That web site is such a dumpster fire anyway that I've switched to paying my bill over the phone because it's actually faster than the web site. (ATDT#927,,1,1,+++ATH)

2. Very occasionally the connection will be very slow. My ordinary throughput at home is about 400Mbps (an oddball speed, I know). Every once in a while it'll throttle down to 1Mbps for a while. Maybe a few minutes. Maybe a few hours. I expect it's due to maintenance and whatnot, since it's still a beta product.


👤 xNeil
I used it when I used Safari, and honestly thought it was great. Problem is I had a problem enabling both ad blocking and Private Relay at the same time, and I eventually opted to used AdGuard DNS instead of Private Relay.

👤 scanr
Have been using it. Haven’t seen any difference between using it and not.

I didn’t know it only applied to Safari to start but it’s my primary browser anyway. It would be much better if made all networking private.


👤 NkVczPkybiXICG
Been great for me. Gets out of my way and I mostly don’t have to think about it. I’ve gone months without having an affirmative thought about it one way or another.

👤 foobiekr
It’s fine. It’s one of those features where nothing happens.

👤 mijndert
It caused Google Maps to completely crash, might have something to do with Wipr being enabled at the same time. I haven't looked into it much, I just disabled Private Relay and that's that.

It's enabled on my phone though, as I rarely touch the browser there anyway.


👤 TradingPlaces
In conjunction with 1Blocker, it slows things down a bit, and sometimes Duck Duck Go hangs. Otherwise, very happy with it

👤 sourabhv
Here in India, it made everything slow, my ping changed from 2ms to 140ms and speed from 300 to 10

👤 datainplace
I am seeing a difference on a new phone. But when I turned it on my old phone everything felt the same.

👤 jandorn
It is great, it's turned on and it's running in the background. I don't even notice it.

👤 internet2000
It's good. Transparent, at least as fast as my connections and helps me dodge a corp firewall.

👤 alphabettsy
Never notice it other than IP-based geolocation being less-accurate (works as intended).

👤 celeritascelery
I can’t get it to work on my home network, but that might be because I have a pi-hole.

👤 akmarinov
It’s kind of slow outside of the big markets, probably because their servers are far.

👤 frizlab
France here, for many pages I see huge slowdowns. Otherwise it’s good.

👤 moistly
How’s it’s been: I forgot it was on. So pretty good, I guess.

👤 Razengan
Disabled in the countries that need it the most.