HACKER Q&A
📣 tribejri

How do you feel about Chrome becoming a browser monopoly?


With Firefox losing more and more ground with each passing year, how do you feel about Chrome getting (even more) of a monopoly worldwide?

Should we start pushing harder for people to use Firefox?


  👤 rossdavidh Accepted Answer ✓
I still use Firefox primarily, and Brave on my phone, but I don't like the way things are headed. I don't know if "pushing" will change much. Firefox probably needs to be better on data security and adblocking in a way which Google is unwilling to match?

👤 alwayslikethis
The Web is essentially a lost cause by this point.

https://drewdevault.com/2020/03/18/Reckless-limitless-scope....

Firefox can barely keep up. Without some Herculean effort, no one will be able to write a new web browser from scratch.


👤 trinovantes
Not great. When standards become whatever Google feels like it is due to their market share, you end up breaking the web for users outside of Chromium

I've recently found out that Firefox/Chrome treats viewport sizes differently when zooming in/out. Which one is correct behavior? I have no idea nor am I interested in digging through pages of RFCs so I just ended up doing a user-agent check and use logic per browser.


👤 zamadatix
Pushing more on the basis it's becoming less popular isn't going to work. People were getting pushed from IE to Firefox and stayed there because IE was an all around pile of stagnant hot dog shit in comparison, not because a few evangelists were worried about percentages.

Unfortunately the differences between Firefox and Chrome are nowhere near as great as the differences between Firefox and IE were. At the same time there isn't another non-Chromium based browser that fits the bill either, especially with MS throwing in the towel and Apple not caring about other OS's.


👤 phillipseamore
Shouldn't the question be: why are users selecting Chromium/Chrome instead of other browsers? The only real contender is Safari, but from the numbers that seems to be mostly from iOS and iPadOS where Apple has their own, enforced, browser monopoly.

👤 chillpenguin
I use and recommend Brave. People should definitely stop using Chrome imo due to the privacy concerns.

Edit: the reason I use Brave over firefox is largely because firefox drained my battery and always turned on the fans on my macbook last time I tried it. Things might be better now but I've settled in on Brave and am happy with it.


👤 Shadonototra
firefox had its chance, they decided to raise the salary of their CEO instead of investing in the browser

at least google improves chrome year after year


👤 johnny_b_g
For me, on a Mac, I consider Safari dead in the water ever since they crippled its extension support, so that's a no-go.

Chrome is made by whom I consider a privacy rapist, so I refuse to use that. As for any Chromium derivatives - well, given its origins, I consider them tainted, so no-go as well on those.

That leaves only Firefox, which to me is quite capable and fast, and I really have no issues using it.

I do think governments should look closely at Chrome's monopoly, since it's Google's (or Alphabet, or whatever name-du-jour) power play in vertical integration/takeover for its own advantage, and way to crush competition.


👤 wetpaws
I'm not afraid of Google, but I'm afraid of inevitable monoculture and stagnation

👤 sys_64738
I used Safari and Chrome based derivatives like Vivaldi and The Edge. Firefox's ship has sailed for me so I don't use it other than for financial needs to isolate from regular browser usage.

👤 McLaren_Ferrari
Same as I felt when the government said Microsoft had a browser monopoly.

They (Microsoft and Google) both got to this point fair and square by providing ease of use and quality of life to the consumer.

Monopolies happening due to competence, great execution or even luck are not a problem.

People should be not alarmed by corporate monopolies as long as Federal govt. retains monopoly of B2 bombers (and violence in general) the latter always retains the capability to disrupt a corporate monopoly.


👤 kurupt213
Chrome is malware

👤 ilaksh
We should be working on an alternative paradigm. https://github.com/runvnc/tersenet

👤 sqwrell
Brave started out fine, but they keep adding un-needed stuff

👤 mekster
Only if Edge took Gecko instead of Blink...

Apple isn't Google's friend and Mozilla depends on Google, so didn't look like split browser engine camp.


👤 llimos
Generally not great, but there are advantages to using something different to everyone else. For example, a lot of paywalled sites can be bypassed using Firefox's reader mode, and it's not worth the sites' effort to try and block it.