I’m at my wits’ end. Regardless of how many hoops I jump through, gmail refuses to deliver my email. Everything that comes from my email server is marked as spam. My email server is correctly configured with the following:
* reverse DNS record
* starttls transmission
* DMARC
* 2048 bit DKIM key
* strict SPF policy
* clean IP reputation
Despite doing all of this correctly (gmail confirms I pass all of these tests) it still puts my messages into spam. I’ve used googles postmaster’s tools and the only thing they say on my domain is that they have no data. As far as I can tell I am being punished for being a low traffic / small mail host.
Is this legal? Is this the basis for a potential anti-trust lawsuit? If my only sin is not using a large established mail gateway, is that fair?
What are HN’s opinions on / workarounds for / solutions to this? I can’t be the only one dealing with this issue.
As a workaround I’m considering figuring out a way for postfix to use a mail gateway (like sendgrid) when the destination domain is gmail.com.
Thanks!
The only solution is to support US elected officials who want to break up Google. There is no solution for you in particular.
I manage a service that sends about 25k emails daily using SES (AWS) with some dedicated IPs. Despite everything done right wrt spf/dkim/dmarc, IP reputation warm up etc, we still run into these issues from time to time with multiple providers. Outlook.com just says 'it is being delivered' and then just deletes the email or something, some local ISPs do that too. And then deny it when you try to 'debug' the issue.
This is simply how email delivery 'works' anno 2022 unfrotunatly
It's been so frustrating that I'm contemplating going back to a provider, or at the very least paying for one of the "warmup services" mentioned here. If anyone has experience with those for non-business I'd love to read about it.
So for a small business owner even 1 person hitting the spam button can be a kiss of death for deliverablity (and I know people irl who think hitting spam and delete are the same thing Basically long story short, if you send 100 emails and 10 people open your email and click on something there is a high probability that the remaining 90 are also going in the primary inbox. Otoh if 2 people were to click the spam button then high chances are rest 98 are also going to spam and soon enough you'll be branded as such. Its why inbox warmup services are so popular nowadays. While I disagree with such practices in theory as most often they are means to abuse filters, your case seems legit and so you may have some luck with that.
It might also be that many users have marked emails from the domain as spam (I know of that happening with competitors signing up to newsletters etc. just to mark them as spam).
I'll happily help. Email me at ST.CyberRabbi@richi.uk (temporary alias—will stop working after a few days). Then reply here, so I remember to go look for it.
check your ip here: https://multirbl.valli.org/lookup/
I don't see how anti-trust apply to this, the barrier of entry to hosting emails is not too high, its just not low enough to be done in an evening, that's like saying needing to buy car washing machines to have a car washer is an anti-trust issue.
Now considering the email going to spam, try different email clients.
anything trivial for you to do to get into someone's inbox can also be trivial for spammers. they'll have a bot that do it 1000 times a day. Gmail can't stop spam altogether so the general strategy is to try to make it as painful and expensive as possible to deter the marginal spammers.
any sort of spam at scale is easier to detect. that's why most marginal spam happens with new IP. similar issue in the past with hacked Gmail accounts. this is where google is cracking down harder and why you're running into these issues.
Everything is set up perfectly, mail-tester.com gives it 10/10, and last week Gmail suddenly starts hard bouncing emails for one day and delivers to spam folder after that. Three days later everything is back to normal.
How? Why?