HACKER Q&A
📣 hcmthrowaway

Diagnosed with genetic heart disease at 25 – how do I make an impact?


I have been diagnosed with pre-clinical hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (HCM), a form of genetic heart disease where the heart becomes abnormally thick. It affects 1 in 500 people (most asymptomatically) and is the leading cause of sudden death amongst otherwise healthy young athletes.

My father is currently suffering symptoms, and my uncle died before the age of 50 from sudden cardiac death caused by HCM. While modern technology such as implantable defibrillators greatly reduce the chances of sudden cardiac death, the degenerative consequences of the disease that probably await me are daunting and scary for a fit and sporty 25 year old.

HCM has only recently begun to emerge from a dark age of being viewed as a benign tumor that can be cut and hacked away at; in reality it is an interesting condition for which drugs and treatments can be specifically developed. Some of the first generation of HCM drugs, myosin inhibitors, are undergoing clinical trials and one, mavacamten, is awaiting FDA approval. These drugs help reduce obstructive symptoms and benefit the structure of the heart, but the root cause, the faulty genes, are left unchanged and the heart continues to thicken. As the genes that cause HCM are known and can be identified by sequencing ones DNA my instinct is that HCM is particularly suited to gene therapy.

I am a recent graduate in computer science, with a bachelors and masters degree. It is hubris (and dangerous) to think that I could save or cure myself, but I have been toying with the idea of doing a PhD in Genetics or a related field and then further research on gene therapy applicable to the heart.

I don't want to start suffering symptoms later in life and regret that I played it safe and did not try to contribute to fighting HCM. It helps that I have not yet found happiness in the working world and was most fulfilled when independently learning and solving problems at university.

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My questions to you HNers:

How can I make the most impact against HCM? A genetics/gene therapy PhD? Apply to AI-aided drug discovery start-ups? Would comp sci give me an edge or just leave me playing catch-up with the biologists?

Is it sensible or healthy to even try? The slow pace of medical advancement & regulation (in comparison to software) and the very personal consequences of failure would be mentally difficult.

Would I be better off staying in software, earning as much money as possible to get the best healthcare and ensure any future children don't carry the genes? Or should I try to maximise happiness while I am still healthy (which is easier said than done)?

Thanks!


  👤 nonrandomstring Accepted Answer ✓
I feel a huge gravity in advising you, so take these words lightly. Beware of getting too close to something that you could over-identify with and possibly feel frustration on top of your condition. I know a super-smart person with a life changing genetic condition who, after long consideration, decided against doing a PhD in the precise area of their own suffering.

Instead, live well and celebrate that you are highly motivated to helping others, and as a computer scientist you can and will make a massive impact on an adjacent area. How about medical imaging? Or diagnostic data science? How about medical robotics or nano-surgery? You might invent something that saves millions of lives. And perhaps by good karma someone else will be looking out for you, and deliver a treatment in 25 years when you need it.


👤 m-alsuwaidi
My answer won’t be PC nor in line with most people’s view: fix it. Fix HMC, it’s a real problem that both you and others suffer. Dont ask for others to help guide you at this stage because nobody has fixed this as you’ve said yourself. Make it the rest of your life’s mission to fix this problem and make this disease disappear from humanity like so many others have. Good luck.

👤 kej
As a parent of a child with cystic fibrosis, I think I can sympathize with the hope and excitement around gene therapies and the newest generation of medications that can treat the underlying problem instead of just the symptoms. There is exciting important work going on there, and if it interests you and you feel like you can be successful, by all means go for it. Please don't interpret the rest of this post as trying to discourage that.

At the same time, I think if you step back a little from genetics you might find other areas where you could make a contribution that don't have as many barriers to entry. There are apps that try to connect people in cardiac arrest with nearby AEDs and people trained in CPR. Can those be improved? Is there any research on alternative fitness programs that might be more appropriate for people with HCM? If early detection would improve long term outcomes, are there better ways to test for it? Would volunteer work to raise HCM awareness while holding down an unrelated office job be your way of making a difference?

Some people build rockets to go to the moon, some people make smaller incremental improvements to airplane design, other people write pop science articles to keep the public excited about aviation and space travel. The world needs all of those people.


👤 f7ebc20c97
You're not the first guy who's been motivated to search for a cure for his own disease. Go straight to the source. Contact the leading researchers and ask about doing a PhD with them or something (I'm not sure how academia works, I never could figure it out). Surely they'd be happy to have motivated researchers. You'll also be on the cutting edge of advanced experimental treatments and you can experiment on yourself someday (if you want).

👤 w10-1
In health care, your ability to really contribute requires credentials, and credentials require clinical experience, which (like PhD's) requires a long slog of free labor -- making people understandably defensive about their positions. It's a world apart from coding, where if you can do it, you can do it.

HCM is quite manageable, and it has a lot of research attention. With care, the actual impact on you is negligible compared to other life factors.

The story is much, much worse for others who are not diagnosed, or for others with more severe diseases, or for the overwhelming majority of others who live without modern medical care at all.

Death awaits us all. It's beyond silly to think that youth, intelligence, power, or luck can save us or justify our lives. Are you lucky that it's you at risk, instead of someone you love?

I recommend thinking about this in terms of whether it enables you to appreciate what others are going through. Then perhaps you can build a life based on compassion, instead of self-interest.


👤 iancmceachern
There are companies like Revivacor, Thoratec (now part of Abbott), Bivacor, Realheart, etc who all have very active work going on in heart pumps, replacements, and xenotransplantation and they all need technical folks, yes programmers too.

I would caution you to fill up your life outside if that quest, don't trade your personal financial or health security in pursuit of it, and find a way for it to be a "good job", i.e. work for one of the above companies or similar for a handsome living, good work life balance, good health and other benefits, etc. and don't spend your life savings on some startup and then spend the next 10 years doing nothing but that letting that drive your identity.


👤 peter303
A new book called The Genome Odyssey (Euan Ashley) has a large section on HCM and genetic medicine. The Stanford Med School research team has many disciplines bridging the medical and computing sides. He has several youtube talks about hiw work.

👤 CobaltFire
Perhaps a middle road? Stay in software and donate money and time to those researchers working on HCM.

This is much like what I tell the younger people who work with me about pursuing art or the like: make money and make it a hobby you can love and pursue with the spare income and time your lucrative career affords you.

By pursuing a lucrative software career and investing expertise and money in the people who have the expertise maybe you can find that middle ground.


👤 captaincaveman
I don't think you need to decide today, I assume you have just recently been diagnosed. Sit with it for a while, carry on with the path your on and if that doesn't feel right in 6 months, a year, 3 years time then you will be in a better position to think what you want to do.

Committing your future today based on this news, is likely to be an over reaction.


👤 thiago_fm
Maybe instead of thinking about impact I'd try to be nice with your family, relationships and instead enjoy life.

Of course, having a job and doing your own thing is always important, but it is not worth wasting your whole life with. Just because there is plenty of people doing that trying to be the next Elon Musk, you don't necessarily need the same. You can chose your own way.


👤 sjg007
It can be hard to work on it when you are close to it personally. I know that from experience. Unless you get an MD you will be disconnected from the clinical side and your approach would be based on fundamental research.

But you are not wrong, gene therapy (crispr) w/ cardiac stem cells, mRNA therapeutics (like the covid vaccines) and AI guided/designed therapeutics are definitely avenues worth pursuing. You would be a motivated researcher. Another way in is to be the money and figure out ways to fund the research.

You might also consider artificial heart research as well as transplant research as I assume those are future options. We may get porcine hearts in the future.

Anyway, those are the current technologies that seem promising. Is there a non human animal model of the disease?

It will be a long journey but take time to enjoy the ride whatever you do.