But I do wonder if Discord for community and event planning + self-hosted website for member growth / publicity is the way to go in 2022?
I ran the DCPHP group for years on our own site. We grew from ~10 to 400 over a span of 5 years. It was great. When I moved, the new leadership moved it to Meetup and grew from 400 to 1000 in a year. Meetup is the discovery platform for just about everyone out there.
In covid times, most groups stopped meeting in person (some stopped meeting at all) but Meetup is still THE place for discovery.
If you're deep and well connected into your local community (based on geo, not tech), you personally can probably skip it but you're also probably an outlier. Anyone less connected or new to your city or the field itself won't know how to get started without it.
Side note.. for 5 years, I ran ATXTechEvents - https://twitter.com/ATXTechEvents - and 50+ other cities broadcasting out via Twitter what was going on and that helped double meeting attendance but I realized pretty quickly, it was existing members. It drove some discovery but was more of a reminder system.
Although I haven't updated my perspective about meetup since COVID started, so while I thought it was very useful before, and believe it still is, I'm not sure it's traction survived (or resources if it faded)
Now that restrictions are lifted in Ontario we will be going back to in-person meetups and probably by the end of the month we will be posting them on Meetup. I am optimistic that we will be able to bring people back.
I have contacted them to ask for help, and I follow up every month to remind them that it still needs to be fixed. But no luck so far.
Any suggestions a) how to get this specific issue resolved and b) general advice for getting menial (but "important to me") things like this fixed?
Meetup.com is now rubbish (mostly singles events, walking tours, scam investment talks etc) and Discord is too geographically distributed to be the right answer.
I've seen a handful of apps that claim to work but none have achieved network.
Been thinking about launching a no code app that basically sets up whatsapp distribution lists plus a low touch website. That's all that's really needed.
In addition, instead of one summary email that could come once per week/month by default they bombard you with hundreds of worthless emails from evety small meetup. So you mass unsubscribe from everything.
Their rework that happened some time ago is basically digg 4.0 level of failure.
I still try to use the site when I remember about it. Yet it is so damn bad; poor search, poor communication, you cant even find how many meetups you attended (possibility of verified badges or w/e).
But this is the best we got. Maybe one day they get some sane designers, current design basically sabotages their core product.
This is still the best place for discovery of events.
I think I went to around 80-90 meetups and it is a pity that they also introduced this terrible monetization (people from silicon valley dont want to pay 2 dollars per attendee, imagine how it looks for the rest of the world - lots of groups dont use meetup anymore).
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21257661 lists other alternatives
I just haven't met many interesting people on meetup. The good independent events just use word-of-mouth and get more than enough people. It's best for sports, the park I live next to is really just a huge playing field, through meetup I can play football, touch rugby, or do some circuits there.
I still think it's the main place to advertise/host technical meetups though. I can't think of anywhere else. You have to put yourself in the shoes of someone who might come to your event - how will they find you? Are they going to be actively looking for your event, or will you need to reach out?
I'm no huge fan of discord for IRL communities because I like to separate my 'gamer tag' from my real identity, as do most people. I've had this problem lately, I love the discord app but I wish we could make IRL servers with real (or abbreviated, like 'John S.') names. It would be so much easier to manage and mod sports clubs if we could keep comms on it, rather than the email/sms/whatsapp mess we have right now.
IMO, you're not far off from what may be the way forward for event planning/broadcasting. A lot of people are actually using Eventbrite as an alternative to Meetup because it's free and removes the membership hurdle, and it also has fewer rules than Meetup. At a bare minimum, Eventbrite + an email list would be viable.
As far as messaging/community, yeah, there's Discord, but Discord likes to do sweeping bans on servers they don't agree with. Your "Bay Area Russians" Discord server could disappear overnight and your entire community is gone. And yes, I have experience with that happening. Signal would be preferable, maybe Telegram, since they're less scary to normies than something like Matrix.
So there's no early way to revenue, and since Meetup is probably only worth about $50m (ignoring the $200m it was sold for to that office company that was desperate it IPO), it'd be a struggle to get funding for marketing while you're gaining traction, since ultimately the market leader isn't worth much.
My app added some important missing features over meetup, but they'd be expensive to run. I'd strip them out but then I'd just have plain old (but empty) meetup again... so I think it's difficult to innovate in this area.
Over 100 members now but I don't believe it's because of Meetup's network since this is 1) a virtual meetup and 2) spanning multiple categories.
It's ridiculous to me that Meetup.com still requires a city two years after a pandemic and has no means to make virtual meetups as first-class as in-person ones.
But it's still an ok platform and there's nothing else I'm familiar with for scheduling public events like this. I am paying for it though so maybe I should be more demanding or take my money somewhere else..
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Not as popular as Meetup by far, but it is a working alternative.
As per discord, it can be a quite nice tool for building communities, however there's a lack of locality in almost all of the servers I've interacted with, so discord ends up serving a different purpose IMO.
We have about 10K members and run events every 3-4 weeks (online at the moment). We are still going strong - we get about 100 people at each event.
I have noticed that we are not growing as fast as we were. I wonder whether meetup.com has slowed down in terms of growth in user base. Or maybe we are just at saturation point.
There's non-profit and free groups I would definitely run. I was offered one such IoT meetup. Again cause of the $15/mo (which I couldn't at the time afford) that group died.
These days, I just ignore Meetup. Let something better come in instead.
It doesn’t matter what you’re into, you’ll probably find a group.
I use it for hiking, kayaking and social events. It is so easy to meet people on there and just find things to do. Most of the groups I belong to, the events fill up and end up with waiting lists.
If you’re new to an area and/or just want to meet new people, it’s hard to beat Meetup in my experience.
Useful service.
Anyone successful using eventbrite to find groups?
There's definitely still trepidation on attendees part, but it's still there.
I actually have 2-3 events scheduled a week local to me in UK that I actually go to.
We also have our own site, but that is more for videos and whatnot, rather than sign ups: https://boulder-ruby.org/
We mostly use the sign up/announce functionality. I suppose we could replace that with a google form and standard website, but we have over 1k members. How many of them would move? We don't have that many twitter followers and no email list. I suppose an email list would be a replacement, if folks would sign up.
I had a friend who was building an alternative (sinking money and time into it for years) and he recently ceased operations. His thoughts: https://twitter.com/coreysnipes/status/1498714532931416070
The tldr: too many good competitors; maybe it is time to look around.