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📣 mrkramer

Why are Google's search products bad if Google has decades of Know-how?


I use Google's search products(Google Search, YouTube search etc.) on a daily basis and I see so many reasonable solutions that would significantly improve UX of Google Products but I don't understand that product designers and managers at Google are not seeing the same or similar solutions. Google has decades of know-how and unbounded human, financial and computational resources but still they can not figure out things like:

My backlog: Google Search: 1. Crawl, index and rank audio content of the web and add it next to Images and Videos in Google Search e.g. "All Images Videos Audio Maps Books More" so I can find and discover audio on Google.

2. Add tags in Google Search just like you added tags when searching in Google Images so I can find websites in specific category or in similar category or that I can find similar type of web content.

3. Just like GitHub has percentage of languages of source code within source code's project page e.g. C++ 90% C 10% add content type percentage next to each web page or website result in Search Results e.g. www.mybiologyblog.com Text 70% Images 20% Videos 10% Audio 0%

YouTube: 1. Standardize both web version and mobile version; in web version on channel's page I can search channel for videos on mobile I can not.

2. Add search option/bar in comment section of videos so I can search for information that is relevant and useful to me.

3. Add search option/bar to playlists so I can search for videos within my playlists.

4. Add Google Lens type search solution to YouTube so I can search "within" YouTube videos frame by frame; e.g. let's say I watch Wild Animals documentary and I want to skip to lions part, machine learning(AI) can analyse frame by frame and point me to that part of the video(Google has similar solution but only for creators called "Chapters"). And use speech recognition so I have transcript and timestamps for YouTube videos or in anther words try to transcribe and timestamp audio of YouTube videos. Frame by frame and transcription solution are complementary.

I have other ideas for YouTube and Google Search in particular but this is my short list. For Google Search my focus is linguistic analysis of websites and analyzing websites' content(text, images, videos, audio, links etc.) I would not try to guess what users want like Google does but I would like to mine and analyze the web and then present it in Search Results for users to discover. Users will find good search results if your analysis and presentation of websites and their specifics/qualities is good in Search Results page.

Also Google Chrome has some web search and web navigation problems that I would like to solve but that I can explain next time.


  👤 sundbry Accepted Answer ✓
Because these days, Google search is just as much as about hiding some information as it is for finding other information. It's a product to maximize revenue and utility for its owners. It's hardly about maximizing utility for the end user.

👤 Decker87
I think there's more nuance than the cynical answer of making money.

Internally Google has become a "rest and vest" culture. Smart people ship one or two meaningful things per year, and because Google is swimming in cash they don't understand that they are ridiculously slow and inefficient.


👤 aristofun
Why isn’t a slaughterhouse comfortable for cows?

Google serves for ad buyers, they are the clients. Users are just a cattle being sold.

And it has been like this from the moment google started being a business.


👤 Mountain_Skies
Google has an agenda but also SEO is an big industry that is at war with Google. Between Google's ideological bent and the war with SEO, it's not simply about indexing and ranking anymore.

👤 fyzix
Search quality has decreased drastically within the last year... My theory is that they ran some A/B tests and concluded that:

bad search results = more clicks on ads


👤 lifeformed
The absolute worst search results I've ever gotten are trying to search my history in Chrome.

👤 sfifs
From what I can see and feel interacting with Google teams as a customer on the business side, (ie not as a consumer), it appears Product creation seems to be rewarded very well organizationally but Maintenance and continuous improvement, not so much.

Also it seems culturally very hard to be able to actually talk to their product engineers about their product - and it's not because of the sales teams are coming in the middle but because the sales teams themselves seem to struggle to get time from the product engineering teams. I've had multiple instances of sales teams suggesting that the best way forward was to talk with the product engineers, then struggling to setup time with them.


👤 jmcgough
Google search isn't optimized for usefulness - it's optimized for revenue.

👤 dvngnt_
Define"bad" in my experience alternatives like ddg work until you want something obscure then Google shines

👤 mleonhard
Making good products takes hard work and focus on users. Few people do this automatically. Most people only do it with sufficient incentive.

I worked at Google 2013-2018. The single root cause for Google and other tech companies letting quality degrade or failing to make good products is mis-aligned incentives. The company's leaders do not incentivize workers to prioritize user experience. The good news is that execution failures create opportunities for new companies to build innovative products.


👤 moralestapia
Because they switched to AI. That's why verbatim search, among other things, stopped working.

👤 frogperson
"Good" is very subjective. Google has investors, customers and users to keep happy. It's most likely not possible to please all parties maximally. It's only natural that they optimize for profits, investors, and customers. The non-paying customers fall further down the priority list every year.

👤 emptybottle
For the same reasons why Boeings max8 was unsafe after decades of know-how — Shareholder value.

👤 is_true
A couple of years ago they added AI to search. It probably worked at the time, but in five years the amount of new content is really big and that's probably why things went wrong.

👤 Anand_S
They must have optimized it for making more money rather than showing proper results

👤 doopy1
Because the products are optimized for making money.

👤 ranguna
Almost every comment here are saying different things, so probably a tldr of the comment section is: I don't like Google, so I'm just gonna wrap my anti-values around the products they offer and post it here as a comment.

In other words, no one really knows. If you don't like Google, I recommend just using something else.


👤 peakaboo
Censorship and SEO.