What Will War Between Russia and Ukraine Mean for the World?

Lots of death and destruction in Ukraine. Human suffering and misery. A new refugee crisis because many Ukrainians, and probably Russians, will try to flee the conflict. I think that there won't be direct military intervention by other countries out of fear of escalation, but who knows. Certainly a lot of sanctions, and a lot of cold and exploding electricity bills ( Russian gas supplies will be cut off either by Russia for pressure or European countries as sanctions).

Also, the global oil and gas prices will increase, countries like Qatar will benefit from washing their image. Russia should be banned from Olympics and other sporting competitions ( the World cup comes to mind). And the stock market, especially in European countries, will dive a bit.

Probably not much, Russia is likely to annex Eastern parts of Ukraine. Germany will continue with NS2 as this winter have proven there really isn't other options. Some political talk and maybe some sanctions will go on for a while.

From what I heard:

- more chip shortage because of neon gas from ukraine and sanctions against russia

- yet another state loosing democracy and in the kremlins grip

- and war in this case is not binary. There already is war and the extend of a further invasion can vary.

- energy market trouble in germany

The whole issue is basically because of two factors.

1. After WWII Ukraine made a verbal agreement not to join NATO/EU, but now it wants to, meaning they want to break the verbal agreement, which of course the other party (Russia) does not like.

2. USA placing rockets next to the Russian border in Poland, which would probably also be done in Ukraine, if it joins NATO/EU.

I would say that if USA removed itself and their forces from EU, all of this war/invasion stuff probably wouldn't be happening.

I don't want war or anything similar to it, I'm more on the side of legalise weed so that everyone can just chill the f down.

BUT I would probably be pretty angry and panic if my neighbor would start placing rockets on the border.

I'm not saying that what Russia is doing is right or that I agree with them, but objectivity looking, their actions are reasonable, it makes sense.

Regarding what will happen or what would happen. In an ideal world NATO and UN would react as soon as a war broke out and hopefully stoping the war as soon as possible.

I hope that in the future there will come a day where military will exist only for events and parades.

EDIT: Sofixa corrected me, it's not Belarus but Poland! Not sure how this slipped my mind, but yeah...

What has kept Ukraine out of the EU ? Simple garden-variety corruption ? EU membership would have provided some deterring effect.

There won't be a war.

From a Russian perspective:

1/ Fabricating evidence to invade Ukraine is exactly what the US have done in Iraq.

2/ Taking apart Crimea and some eastern parts from Ukraine in the name of the majority of their population is exactly what the USA and a large part of European countries have done with Kosovo.

I'm 100% hostile to Putin but we have skewed the very same international laws in the past.

I am very afraid for Ukrainians.

I couldn't help but wonder when the US left Afghanistan when the next conflict would start.

How can anyone take the governments word on this? Even if they actually are right this time, it's like the boy who cried wolf.

Sanctions for Russia. Good opportunity to short the rouble.

How soon we forget USSR ! Perhaps it is inevitable that the USSR would reform and this is just another step in that process. Germany will build and make use of the pipeline regardless what Biden says, they need the energy. Europe will posture as usual and not actually do anything. If no one else gets involved it may well be over in a month and the west will get back to the greed & corruption which seems to be the norm these days. For the US a new cold war will be ideal for their military/industrial economy and the rest of the world will suffer from the bullying of Russia, China & the USA. Same old same old....the media will find something else to scare us about.

My prediction: Russia makes some quick wins against Ukraine's military, but discover they can't defeat a stubborn, well-armed guerilla resistance.

Then things will get ugly.

If we go by Russia's actions against Ukraine in the 20th century, they'll start rounding up civilians and sending them to a life of hard labor in Siberia [1], not much caring if they survive the journey and conditions.

Or just shoot all the farmers who know what they're doing and sell all the food, with predictably horrific results [2].

Vladimir Putin will deny any reports of atrocities committed by his military as hysteria and exaggeration, or say that all the bad things happening to civilians are being done by big bad Ukrainians to poor innocent Russian separatists, in his variation on that old favorite theme of school bullies everywhere, "Stop hitting yourself." There will be a lot of hand-wringing and sanctions, but ultimately NATO will decide that if Russia's actions result in the deaths of a few million people, it's unfortunate, but ultimately this isn't an issue over which we would start World War 3 and trigger the deaths of a few billion people.

Russia will discover it has a taste for brutal repression and territory annexation (to a greater extent than it currently has). It will turn into Soviet Union 2.0. NATO and every former Soviet state will have common interests in avoiding another Ukraine situation, meaning those states will all rush to join NATO, and NATO will super-fast-track them. Which will make Russia even more alarmed and less rational. Which will get us closer to World War 3 than we've ever been.

The sanctions -- driven by a Europe united in fear and disgust of Russia's actions -- will ultimately decouple Russia from Europe economically: Iron Curtain 2.0. China will be perfectly fine with it, as it will allow them to fill the economic vacuum left by the severed European ties, and become Russia's top trading partner.

Which will lead to more coordination among Russia and China, and they'll validate and reassure each other that dictatorship, repression, genocide, etc. are perfectly legitimate means of running a country. China will be better able to stand up to the US with Russian trade to fall back on if the US threatens them with sanctions. China will be emboldened to take Taiwan and maybe more, if Russia's invasion of Ukraine is successful in enlarging its borders. From the point of view of the leadership, the prestige from border enlargement is the point of playing the game; the barbarism, deaths and misery are unimportant implementation details.

...Wow, thinking about where this is going is quite depressing.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_punishment#Soviet_U...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%93...

One thing for sure, draft will be back around the world.

Please stop spreading the panic and hysteria. Even in such a neutral and curious manner.

It is exactly the goal of russian politicians’ manipulations — more and more people talking about it and hence afraid.

Just like terrorists’ main goal is not blowing buildings and people, but raising awareness of their cause through the roof.

The only war that is already going on is an informational war.

And such a post is a tiny battle of this war, lost to russian propaganda machine.