At first I thought this was just me noticing a pattern that wasn't really there, but when I looked back at my phone records I could see that I had literally never received a phone call from either of these area codes, and that within a day of talking with someone in that area code I started getting robocalls.
Has anyone else experienced this? How would robocallers get this information — interception, buying it from my cell phone company, or something else?
Even if they're just buying a list of area codes I've talked to, this seems completely inappropriate. And if they're getting the actual numbers, that's even worse.
If people then put in the DTMF tones for 5309, or whatever code it might be this month, it initiates an outbound call to my actual cellphone and bridges the calls together.
In many cases I don't give out my direct cellphone number to 3rd parties, or anyone who isn't a close family member or colleague, I only give out the DID of the system with the filtering IVR on it.
I do still receive the occasional coldcall spam on my cellphone's direct number, which isn't entirely avoidable, but those are only random calls which aren't looking for me in particular. By only giving out the phone number of the filtering DID, I avoid my number being entered into many random third parties' CRM systems which are inevitably subject to data leaks, copying, data sharing with other 3rd parties, sales and marketing campaigns, etc.
I really _really_ wish I could flag an incoming call to my telecom provider and get paid money for it charged to the caller. Then let the telecom provider prove that it was or wasn't malicious.
1. Often I will end an incoming call as fast as possible if it seems like a spammer. When you do this while the first ring is happening sometimes a few seconds later you will receive a second call from the same phone number. I then end that call as fast as possible again (without answering of course). I am hoping that some of these spam phone software systems have automated processes to mark numbers that are no longer dial-able.
2. Sometimes I answer as fast as possible and then play the oldschool sounds of a dialup modem or fax machine. I have even jokingly done this just making the sounds of a dialup modem with my voice. Many times the automated system hangs up after I do this. Again I am hoping they have something built in to their automated spam system to mark numbers that are fax / modems / non-people.
3. I have also tried answering the phone and then completely covering the mic or playing some simple white noise. This does not usually seem to work and eventually someone picks up. I doubt they are marking my number in this case as it has gone to an actual human.
If landline has your phone company been hacked or your security services yanking your chain?
If mobile, is your device rooted? Is you sim card hacked? Any component with a cpu may have the ability to independently use the hardware, so a sim card phoning home independent of the phone OS, it all depends on how the circuit board is designed.
Your phone is listening and it's not paranoia (2018 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28973345
LTE Phone Number Catcher: A Practical Attack against Mobile Privacy https://www.hindawi.com/journals/scn/2019/7425235/
Not the link I was looking for but it will probably convey the same info which is your Decap of a Cell Phone SIM card [video] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12674846
And dont forget the arm processor used for wear levelling purposes in (micro)sd cards, also another attack vector depending on how its wired.
I called my cell carrier and they said that even they do not have my phone records until several hours later, and besides they don't sell phone records.
When I called Apple, the senior advisor told me that maybe my Facebook app is listening to me since "that's just the way the systems are set up". I was floored that an Apple employee (a senior rep, no less) would say such a thing. She didn't indicate how the app would have permission to do this if not granted it at the OS level. Regardless, I don't even have the FB app installed.
I'm now going to swap my SIM card into a different iPhone and see if the issue persists.
Have you opted out of CPNI resale in your cellular carrier’s preferences system?
I'd chalk it up to an app on your phone tbh. Android is particularly susceptible to this if you have READ_CALL_LOG permission on for some apps.
I get a number of local code spam calls, but have seen an increase in state code calls.
Are the area codes you're seeing local to you, or distant? Or, what's the likelihood that someone in your region would be calling the same area codes?
1) Pay for a real spam filter from your telecom (usually free in highest tier plan). It’s remarkable hope much it catches, and I have never received a complaint in 5+ years
2) Buy a long term burner— your telecom usually sells a reasonable plan, or free if you pay for high tier coverage.
Me: same cell # for 25 years-22 too many with sprint (good spam shield when it didn’t crash) and more recently t-mobile (great spam guard and burner (named Digits)—both free upon request if you have a sufficiently expensive plan)