HACKER Q&A
📣 brtkdotse

Who's getting pulled back into the office?


Sweden has, as of today, retracted all Covid-19 restriction as is basically we're "back to normal". Within 12 hours several companies went out and said we are all going back to the office. Some companies (like mine) said mandatory one day per week in the office, others said "fun's over, back in the office 100%".

What's your situation?


  👤 noone_youknow Accepted Answer ✓
The company I worked for (a consultancy) started touting a “hybrid working model” (I.e. we’ll need you in the office more and more as we see fit) so I quit and got a full-remote job with another company who are based as far from me as possible (so even if they decide to vary my contract and go office based I’m well outside the area they could reasonably expect me to travel).

I’ll never go back to commuting.


👤 casralad
In my city, Covid infections are still higher than they were at the peak last winter, so there has not been much discussion about returning to the office, though our offices are open and anyone can go in and work there if they choose.

We were told early on that we would get a 30 day warning if we were expected to come back to the office, and management for my team has said they would never require us to come back, that it would always be optional. (Always is a long time. I'm under no illusion that this policy is immutable).

I would be very surprised if myself or any of my peers asked to come back to the office in the next year or so.


👤 ksaj
I did a poll on Twitter a couple days ago, and 100% of my colleagues that replied to it are still working from home. It is mainly infosec and developers in my circle.

👤 koenigdavidmj
I highly doubt it will ever be required at my company. Too many people made permanent moves away from the office, some nearby (2-3 hours away, but doable occasionally) and some far away (cross country). They know they'd lose a lot of people if they called everyone back.

👤 woofcat
Canada here: Not yet back in the office but plan is 2 days a week.

Personally it seems like the worst of both worlds.


👤 5bolts
Deal with to much physical paper (banking and lockbox so have to scan checks, open mail) to be able to work from home. Tried it at the beginning of covid but wasn't productive.

Coworkers (report writers and the like) tried it - loved it - hate the fact that our C levels want them back in the office. But even though they felt like they were more productive at home they didn't do half their work, and they weren't around to fix the easy stuff before it became a ticket... rest of the buiilding resented the fact that they were never around to help


👤 taubek
I worked as contractor (remote only) before Covid-19. Few months ago I decided to ditch contracting as a way of work for me. Now I work at company that was before corona 100% office based. They are now hybrid. And they will remain hybrid. If I want I can go to office or I can work from home. This is in my opinion the best mode.

I like to be among people, to have my team mates few steps away and not few clicks and Zoom call away.

I would say that one third of my current company is coming to office, and the rest of the team is remote.

So far I've worked like 95% days from the office, and 5% days from home.


👤 altairprime
I’m considering changing from a remote-always job to a remote-until-after-Covid job, because I’ve learned over the past several years that I got better work done in offices than at home. The job I’m hoping for is definitely all-in on offices for better reasons than usual, and it’d make a really nice change from the endless blur of WFH. If I’m lucky at timing, I’ll be accepted and they’ll pull everyone back in and I can negotiate a relocation stipend.

👤 mehphp
Staying 100% remote as a company thankfully.

I do miss the office sometimes but having all that time and energy back of just getting to and from work is more than worth it.


👤 tanseydavid
In my case there is no more office.

Official word is that at some point in the future we might have a central location again but this is not for certain.


👤 valdask
Fun thing is that people will decide if it's "over" or not. Not corporations.

If most of employees hands in resignation notes; then the policy will be reverted as quickly as it was created. Unless whole management is toxic and they cannot survive without having ability to micro-manage and shoulder-peek all day long.


👤 cloudengineer94
Here in Europe it's starting to happen already. These companies that are forcing 80% office or anything below are starting to loose talent.

We are a cloud shop 100% remote and I can say we have been hiring some really good talent at the major companies just because of this.

Some people even accept a full pay cut for this.


👤 billsmithwicks
I'm working fully remote (for now), so I'm trying to figure out when the tech industry will be going back to the office in Dublin by reaching out to local recruiters. Most of them don't know yet for sure, but it's like to be some variation of 5 to 10 office days per month.

👤 cudder
Not yet, but soon. CEO said that in the coming months everyone is expected to transition back to 80% office work and 20% remote at most.

Which is why I'll be looking for a new remote job soon.


👤 digitcatphd
I run a consulting business and have found people have started to request in-person meetings. I tell them Zoom is more efficient (which it is) and they agree.

👤 errcorrectcode
There are a number of problems with WfH.

There's no work community or camaraderie at home. Doggo should count. Kittah jumping on the keyboard is just using you for food and grooming.

There's no grabbing lunches.

There's no visiting X down the hall.

No grabbing a beer after work.

Boss G, H, or J can't see you around.

Colleagues M, N, P, and Q don't have a sense of your performance or amount of work that happens far away. "Out of sight, ..."

Pair programming becomes less effective.

It's typing away by yourself like a writer, occasionally seeing "holograms" of other people on screens, or taking calls like you're working a call center.


👤 replwoacause
I am 100% remote, and don't planning on ever returning to a regular work week at the office. The company I work for is based in another state.

👤 brewingcode
100% remote now. Team is 100% remote as well. I do miss some social interactions from the office, I love the freedom to explore and work.

👤 anothernewdude
The best time for finding a fully remote position was during the first lockdowns. The second best time is now.

👤 ID1452319
My company (UK FMCG manufacturer) has been back in the office, five days a week, since last summer

👤 wodenokoto
Not Sweden, but fun is over on Valentine’s Day. Everyone back, 100%, not a word on wfh options.

👤 unixhero
2 times per week. Also need to fly to other offices once a month.

👤 bjourne
Here the rule is in office AT LEAST three days per week. They fooled us, said vaccinations was to save lives. Instead it was just to squeeze us back into offices again. :( Productivity must have really plummeted during the pandemic otherwise I can't understand why they are demanding office presence so much. Here Covid deaths are still high (20-30/day) so it's not even a good time to end restrictions.

👤 AnIdiotOnTheNet
I never got to leave the office, except for the brief period I had contracted COVID and was quarantined at home. Unsurprisingly I had contracted it at work.

Consequently, I can't share the enthusiasm of the crowd that seems to have deluded itself into believing this whole mess would usher in the age of the Glorious Work From Home revolution.