Im not achieving anything, no matter how hard i try
On my 6th month of doing barely anything and it’s already December
I’m regretting that i didn’t use the time to achieve something meaningful
I have money, yet i’m miserable and unhappy
I feel ashamed of being that guy who is always depressed, angry and sad
All i dream of to make a contribution and make an impact
Yet i struggle to find anyone who needs my help
I’m thinking my (dead) grandparents would be embarrassed of me being such a loser
I’m trying all my best to be a good person, yet i’m still not good enough for myself
I used to think it’s not that bad: i’m not hungry, have a warm place to stay and guaranteed inheritance
Yet, i feel like i’m a useless parasite, nothing i do brings joy to me
You're not a parasite, and the people who care about you don't think you're a loser. You're okay, and it sucks that you're going through this, but nothing is wrong with you. You're just having a rough spot, which is normal and common, especially in these times. If anyone says otherwise (including or especially yourself) they're wrong.
I agree that therapy is a good idea here. If you've had trouble finding a local therapist, use the betterhelp or talkspace app - it's very easy to get connected to a therapist there.
Wishing you the best in moving forward with all this.
Some days it will be hard to get out of bed. That is ok. Get out of bed anyways.
There will be days where doing one 15 minute task will take you 8 hours. That is ok, do it anyways. And then congratulate yourself that you finished it. Do not berate yourself that something so simple took you so long to finish.
Have a goal of 20 minutes vigorous walk daily. You will fail to achieve this goal for many days in a row. That is ok.
The sun is your friend, it will make you feel better. If you live somewhere without much sun, vitamin D can be a lifesaver. If I run out of my supplement and fail to purchase more I notice a strong correlation with low moods that could spiral into depression. I don’t let my vitamin D run out.
Some days you will not want to feel better. That’s ok. Try to feel better anyways.
Sleep is important. Do whatever you can to protect your sleep.
Eat foods that make you feel better. Avoid foods that make your mouth happy at the expense of your body. You may not know how to tell the difference yet. If you pay attention to your body you may eventually get a better idea of what these foods are.
It’s ok to be useless. It’s ok to not make an impact. It’s ok to only do small kindnesses to others. Find some small way to genuinely help someone. Try to do this regularly.
Also, remember that happiness=f(reality/expectations). Your reality can be amazing, but if your expectations are even higher all your achievements are going to feel like garbage. So try not to beat yourself up trying to chase high expectations.
Wake up earlier than you currently do, every day. Walk somewhere a little farther than usual, if even for a cup of coffee.
Repeat daily. You’ll know when.
Just don't ask randos on the internet. You'll hear this often, because there's truth to it: Seek therapy. It's not a sign of weakness.
And if the therapist doesn't "click" with you, see a different one.
I have one and only piece of advice: seek treatment for your depression.
You likely won't be able to implement any of these other suggestions until you do that one.
Depression is no joke and can very easily ruin your life if you don't treat it. None of the other suggestions I saw in the thread seem to understand this. (The hyperbole and a half webcomic series on depression does, however.)
My contact info's in my profile, and I have some suggestions to that end I don't wish to write here.
Call or email me. Don't wait.
> On my 6th month of doing barely anything and it’s already December
> I’m regretting that i didn’t use the time to achieve something meaningful
> All i dream of to make a contribution and make an impact
> Yet i struggle to find anyone who needs my help
That's rather a bad mindset. You don't need to be a president or Shakespeare or Einstein or Bill Gates, etc to be impactful or achieve something.
Become impactful can be done in smaller scale, starting from family or relative (skip if they're jerks), friends (again, skip if they're jerks), local community, even local animal shelter and wild bees.
Well I'm not joking. Many people, especially orphans may need helps. Wild sheltered animals and wild bees too. They need helps, though from anyone, not especially yours.
On the contrary, you may already made impacts, for example when you buy from local grocers or vendors, you may helps them fulfill their financial needs that day / week.
Always view the small scope, nearby. The world may not need 2nd Einstein to survive, but local entity may need your interference to survive.
Herein lies the problem. Target smaller goals, even smallest one in the beginning. It will help you get unstuck. I.e. - want to be helpful? Volunteer to walk dogs at the shelter. The dogs will be happy and you'll be doing something useful instead of nothing. (not to mention dogs are just so naturally loving and grateful creatures that even just being around them can help you unclench).
BTW, the dog shelter is just an example. It would be ideal for you to pick up work in a direction you already fell some pull towards. I.e. - would you like to see some improvements in your neighborhood/city? - get involved in local community policits. Would you like to see improvements in an open source project you're using? - start contributing. Etc.
Take care of your other needs – try to eat well, sleep well, move enough, get social support (as you are doing now). And, as others say, get a therapist that you can work with.
It may take some time to work things out. But it's okay. Just see it as growing and maturing.
One of the common issues is vitamin D deficiency, because our lifestyles have become rather indoorsy. If you have not been going outside during sunlight hours, it is something to get tested for.
Depression is not about logic. You can't think your way out of depression. Depression has emotion at it's core, and that's where you want to beat it. To start feeling good and balance your system, you need to do some trial and error to figure out what's wrong. If it's diet, let's say carbs give you adhd-like symptoms (like it did to me), that also translate into less quality sleep, you will get anxious and depressed. If it's a magnesium imbalance, say your digestive system doesn't absorb enough magnesium from your food or maybe you need more magnesium in your system. Then a sunflower snack 2-3 times a day for a few days might improve your condition.
Find me on discord: macro#5246, we can do some one to one sessions to help you.
You can win this battle!
The reality is that your expectations may not have ever been realistic to begin with. Most of us are not going to be well-known or famous. Insisting that you 'have to' become this or that in life by point X is just going to make you depressed.
I would say, firstly, you need to give yourself a break and take credit for whatever you have accomplished in life. Your thinking has become distorted. Are you seeing a therapist? They could potentially help you sort out some of these negative thoughts and set more realistic goals for yourself. Those goals should be small and achievable to start - not unachievable pie-in-the-sky dreams that will just make you demotivated.
Find a homeless person. Tell them if they’re interested you want to share a lunch with them while they tell you their story. Doesn’t have to be the story of how they became homeless, just any story they want to share with another human being.
Many homeless are invisible and feel like less than human because they can go months before exchanging an authentic conversation with another person. For a social species like ours, that’s a torturous existence.
You might not feel less like a useless parasite, but for that moment, for that individual, you objectively made a difference.
You can recover. The darkness will eventually relent. You can be productive and successful one day. It’s not over. There are no easy solutions or habits to fix it though, that is the sad truth. The best you can do at the bottom is not give up.
Second: check your diet, sleep and health. A good mind needs all of those in proper order. See an expert if any of those is not in place.
Third: Do you work part-time/full-time? If yes you are already contributing something to the world. If not, are you a student? You will have to chart out a path depending on your current status.
There were some other HN discussions where I commented in more detail, and the containing discussions also have interesting comments (& maybe I like helpful lists):
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22129921 "Procrastination is about managing emotions, not time"
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23452651 "Ask HN: I implemented the life I designed: perfect but I feel lost. What now?"
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28867645 "Ask HN: What's the Point of Life?"
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23553508 (part of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23550758 "Ask HN: How do you develop internal motivation?")
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19708786 (part of "Ask HN: What are good resources for life advice?" at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19650044 )
And maybe (noting for future reference also): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29266094 " Ask HN: Career progression vs. meaningful/appealing products?"
To me by far the best thing is to have an enduring, joyful, worthwhile, good purpose in life, that drives everything else (including maintaining one's health, balance etc). I have written much about that, at my own site (in profile, then survey or click "Other"). I link to other resources there also; nothing for sale.
You could barely achieve all the things you mentioned before fixing your psyche.
And even if you would have achieved them, you’d still be where you started - feeling empty and unable to enjoy what you have.
- Take exercise. Needn't be epic. A walk is fine. Eat decent food.
- Ingest positive entertainment. Do a linuxfromscratch.org project.
- Find a suitable house of worship. Technology is a useless remedy for the moral vacuum of our day.
If you want somebody to talk to drop me an email at pavlo@malynin.com about anything thats on your mind.
If you want to talk to somebody at this current moment you can also text HOME to 741741 to speak with a counselor.
https://www.amazon.com/12-Rules-Life-Antidote-Chaos/dp/03458...
Here's a quick video (12 min video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApC0faRYabI
I suspect his lectures, books, etc are likely more in depth. I personally haven't read it much, but am aware of the rules.
At the end of the day, you have to just get moving. One thing I've found helpful is selecting objectives, often physical ones. Go to the gym every day, take a 1-hour walk. Brush your teeth, shower, eat breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Make a list and hold yourself to account, get a star chart and show progress. From there you can build.
Life needs objectives, you have to decide who and what you want to be, but start at some basics -- "I want to bench 180lbs" or "I want to complete my list for a full week".
It may sound strange, but when people are in that state, the hardest thing in the world is getting started. If you miss a day, fine. Don't make an excuse you have to keep going. Eventually, you form habits and the more you form, the more robust and resilient you are. If you miss a couple activities for a day or two it wont be the end of the world. Just keep your life moving and pick them back up.
After you can do that and you accomplish a few objectives, I think you can / should start thinking of longer goals, 2 -3 years out and just keep building. At the end of the day, this isn't a journey for anyone but yourself.
Take long walks. Increase your body's metabolism without wearing it out.
Reduce sugar, salt, caffeine and other stimulants.
If you do, you have the capability to change this.
Everyday go for a walk outside, and everyday lift something heavy.
You can fix yourself, as long as you want to.
You see, there's this thing called being sad that you all might have heard of. It's what happens when someone has good reason to feel bad. Before you assume you are broken, figure out whether you are sad or if you actually are clinically depressed. Maybe that means getting a diagnosis, or figuring it out on your own. A lot of people here are jumping to the conclusion that seeking therapy is the only answer for you and that's pretty messed up.
If you aren't achieving anything, and it's achievement in and of itself that you care about, then either focus on what will help you reach your current goal or find something else to achieve instead of doing what you are doing now. You don't have time to wait and find out if you'll get lucky going with the flow. Someday you will get too tired to change, and eventually you will die just as we all will.
So you're not happy with your current station in life. Well, there's likely a reason for that. You're unhappy because whatever you are doing to make money sucks. And yes, all work sucks to some extent, but the point at which you become sad and frustrated is the point at which a part of you realizes the futility of your situation. It sounds like you have an image of what you are supposed to be, and are concerned with how dead people would think of you. Give yourself a break. Nothing you said suggests that you are a bad person, and your grandparents lived most of their lives in a world entirely different from the one you and I share.
Before you go down the road of treating clinical depression, consider that you could be legitimately sad. It's okay to be sad as long as you eventually work your way out of it. There is no easy answer to addressing your problem. You can either stay sad, or you can throw the book out the window and try literally anything (within reason) that might give you a new purpose. Try something you think you might not even like, at least at first. Seeing as it doesn't sound like you are particularly worried about money, you may not have much to lose by quitting on the choices that are making you miserable.
And if you still don't find fulfillment, then you might need to lower your standards. In this day and age, it's way too easy for us to expect too much from ourselves. We can't all be heroes, else there would be no heroes. Some of us aren't meant to achieve anything meaningful besides perhaps raising children, and that's okay. Rather than achieving something meaningful, maybe you can just do something meaningful. Whatever said thing is, if there must be something, depends on what you do next.
But perhaps you've already tried. Maybe therapy would be the right thing for you, and you could even start with therapy. I don't care. I just don't hope that you are too quickly convinced that what you are going through is a pathological problem what it may really be a life problem.
No matter what, at some point, you just need to stop feeling sorry for yourself. In the grand scheme of things, you're still a winner in some respect. You could be sitting in a bare studio apartment for all I know and you're better off than millions of people in the world, and you are better off than many of our ancestors. Yes, a life devoid of satisfaction sucks, but you have time to find fulfillment that others don't. That's at least something to feel good about. You could fail over and over but at least you had the opportunity to do so.
Lastly, if there's anything you currently believe that is disempowering, learn not to believe such things. Ideas that aren't empowering are often wrong and serve you no good.
if you're putting this in one sentence try not having the money and see how it feels
Therapy.
Hang in there, it gets better.
_"Im not achieving anything, no matter how hard i try"_ _"I’m regretting that i didn’t use the time to achieve something meaningful"_ _"All i dream of to make a contribution and somehow make an impact"_
Could it be that your sense of achievement is attached to an outcome/impact (not the process), and the sense of meaning is closely attached to the success of that outcome?
_"I have money, but i’m miserable and unhappy"_ _"I feel ashamed of being that guy who is always depressed, angry and sad"_ _"I’m thinking my (dead) grandparents would be embarrassed of me being such a looser"_ _"I’m trying all my best to be a good person, yet i’m still not good enough for myself"_ _"Yet, i feel like i’m a useless parasite"_
Agree with some other the other responses here that self-perception is the major factor. Note that these are things you are saying to yourself. It's YOUR thinking about what your (dead) grandparents might think of you. The fix also lies in how you think of yourself, far more than what anyone else thinks of you. The more you think along these lines, the more you are saying this to yourself - and this forms a self-enforcing loop where you begin to believe this is reality. When you think in this manner, you'll find it hard to believe even if someone close to you told you otherwise (that you were helpful); you'll might trust them, or you may feel it was insignificant by your standards.
_"I have money,..i’m not hungry, have a warm place to stay and guaranteed inheritance"_
It's good that you recognise that you have means for a healthy living. Many aren't as lucky. While you think it is not that bad, are you able to fully reconcile how good it really is? Money and happiness don't have a guaranteed co-relation, but, it does give you the financial freedom to think about other things beyond just survival. You need to recognise that it is a strength you can leverage. Self-perception continues to play a role here too. Would you have felt differently about yourself if you were 5x richer?
_"I feel ashamed of being that guy who is always depressed, angry and sad"_ _"Yet i struggle to find anyone who needs my help"_
You can start by helping yourself first. Do this to get to a better state of mind, to be in a position to help others later. Helping yourself get out of the state-of-mind you are in will have the highest impact realisation. This could also give you the self-confidence and determination you need in helping others. You'll also be in a much better position when helping others get out of their depressed, angry or sad state.
Of course you're going to feel this way -- You don't deserve that, and emotions are going to ensue. That is the human in us, and that is the human in you.
> Can’t make myself do anything anymore
Your motivation is tapped out from carrying these weights you never asked for. It's not your fault you feel this way.
> Im not achieving anything, no matter how hard i try
And you never will in the land of unreasonable expectations. Your work ethic isn't the issue, it's the impossible bar set before you.
> On my 6th month of doing barely anything and it’s already December
You're burnt out. It's okay to sit with that feeling for awhile. It takes time to realize it.
> I’m regretting that i didn’t use the time to achieve something meaningful
Regret comes from a decision. This wasn't a decision, you simply were not able to use the time as you imagined.
Mental health can be just as serious of an obstacle as broken bones. When your legs are sprained, you can't regret the run you couldn't take. When your brain is clouded by emotion, you can't regret the work you couldn't make.
> I have money, but i’m miserable and unhappy
There is an expectation placed upon you that money should make you happy.
It sure does not! And you are the living proof. There's nothing wrong with you. The expectation is wrong.
Shelter, security, and fulfillment make us happy. Money cannot help you acquire all these things.
> I feel ashamed of being that guy who is always depressed, angry and sad
You deserve to exist as you are. There is no shame in feeling this sadness and this anger. Emotions are part of the human experience. They do not ruin our value.
It's also natural for some people to have trouble with emotional company. Frequently people are taught to suppress emotions and that is projected onto others, perhaps this is happening to you.
I'm happy you're here today. I feel no shame or disappointment for you.
> All i dream of to make a contribution and somehow make an impact
You are on a quest for glory! If this quest is your own, and not from an expectation set before you, you will find your way.
You must take care of these feelings first however. It's all part of the quest or, if you prefer to see it this way, a prerequisite. You cannot conquer your dreams with this fog.
> Yet i struggle to find anyone who needs my help
I know one person who needs your help. It is the person who said this:
> I’m trying all my best to be a good person, yet i’m still not good enough for myself
You have to put on your own oxygen mask before you help others. Your wellbeing matters!
> I’m thinking my (dead) grandparents would be embarrassed of me being such a looser
To be embarrassed of you means they had expectations of you. This is the shadow.
You are not a loser. This life is yours. You may do as you please with it.
I don't have money, and I may not be as miserable and unhappy as you, but I also dream of making a contribution. At the top of my head I've been wanting to do the following:
- Guide local undergrads in learning web dev. Giving them access to quality learning materials means a lot, let alone letting them access free linux servers (there are $5 cheap ones at hetzner / digitalocean / vultr but I was thinking if I could maximize those by using firecracker vm's which was used by fly.io)
- Create a local startup community platform. Our local community have a sub-par index of the local startup ecosystem and its resources, could use a lot of organization.
My work doesn't pay a lot, I don't have inheritance, I still struggle on bills. But I guess any man in my position would welcome some free beer and cigs money, hahaha.
Realtalk: if you're sitting on your hard-earned money, I don't see any reason to feel bad about it. If you're sitting on inherited money, maybe it's your parents' fault for giving you too much of a safety net. If you can't manage your resources efficiently, maybe the challenge is finding that person that could execute those well for you.
Lord Kelvin once said, "if we can't measure it, we can't improve it". What are your metrics for your impact-focused pursuits? At those two examples I've given above, my metrics are 1.) amount of undergrad developers we get to help each quarter, and 2.) amount of new local startup founder / employee we see each quarter. What are your metrics bro?
And what drugs are you on, uppers, downers, psychedelics, deluriants?.. Reminds me of that Alan Watts guy who said "If you get the message, hang up the phone.". Ain't saying they're good nor bad, but what's your end game with that? Maybe try dropping them for a while to get some clarity? Haha, ball is on your court