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📣 taaron

Does Everyone Hate Chatbots?


We recently did a Show HN post that drove a lot of traffic to our site. We also had an intercom chatbot that was used to qualify leads.

We expected to get roasted on our product, but the Show HN post went surprisingly well. Instead we did get roasted on our chatbot. As in everyone hated the chatbot.

So despite almost every SaaS product page having a chatbot, is the truth that everyone actually hates them? Is there a specific time and place for chatbots?


  👤 mindcrime Accepted Answer ✓
I don't hate chatbots in principle. I mostly hate chatbots used as a customer support channel for SaaS applications - even more so when they are the only channel for customer support.

Why? Because frankly they just aren't good enough yet. In my experience they are too dumb to be useful and the process of interacting with the bot is just a waste of my time.

I also don't like when the chatbot interface pops up and starts interacting with me on an unsolicited basis. To me that's just like when I walk into a retail store and 3 seconds later somebody is in my face going "Can I help you find anything?" That is an experience that I also hate with a white-hot burning fury.

That said, I did have a good experience with an Amazon chatbot recently where I expected it to not work, and it wound up solving my problem after all. shrug


👤 mracette
Baird Hall from Wavve made an interesting point that chatbots are a blessing for founders because every question/conversation is an insight into what users are thinking and how they view the product.

As a consumer, I hate them. There is something very off putting about seeing a notification when you visit a landing page.


👤 dexwiz
Chat bots are the new phone trees. Expect it to solve routing and very basic, top 5 easiest/common problems, but not much more. Also if you spam people with it and interrupt them, they hate it. It’s like the random sales rep asking if you need help when you are trying to make a decision.

👤 crate_barre
Every SaaS landing page wants to signal they are a legit product. That best way to signal this is by copying other landing pages. If every landing page has a list of companies using your stuff, a chatbot, scrolling fly ins, you pretty much have to do the same thing. Whether these things are useful or not is irrelevant.

Chatbots have a real use as first level support, but it has very little use on a landing page, but that’s neither here nor there, we all simply want to fit in.

Sales is hard.


👤 abheek_vimal
I don't mind chatbots, provided I have the option to escalate the issue to a person without much hassle, and it isn't one of those pop-up windows that opens up EVERYTIME you open/refresh a page.

Usually, I use chatbots for basic queries such as scheduling appointments, flagging a fraudulent transaction, returning/replacing an online order, etc. All of the above are fairly straightforward and don't really need the attention of a person. For more complex issues, I don't expect the chatbot to answer the question in the first place, so there isn't much room for disappointment.

Sidenote - One thing I dislike is when the chatbots claim "Hey this is Cindy, an actual person ..." when it is clearly a bot.


👤 jareklupinski
i don't mind a chatbot when i'm already looking for something/someone to talk to, but a chatbot that pops up when i'm just browsing is annoying and an interruption

it doesnt seem like a big deal to website owners who only work on a single product, but their customers may be evaluating tens or maybe hundreds of products a day, so while one chatbot popup may be nothing to a founder, tens or hundreds of chatbots for us gets old real fast

be different; idk maybe make the chatbot text you directly


👤 wiseleo
If I can't find something on the website and have to resort to talking to someone, then whatever resources the chatbot has available should be accessible to me on the website directly.

Chatbot is functionally an interactive search box and I should be able to use a search box with identical results.

I prefer self-service websites with the option to talk to a human. Chatbots deliver negative value to me in many situations.

That being said, there are situations where I would implement a chatbot. For example, I offer a service where we don't care what the prospect's problem is since we can solve it. The prospect, however, does not trust us enough to be able to do this and so they want to talk to someone to be reassured that what we claim is indeed true.

For that, I can definitely implement a chatbot. If the inquiry could normally be handled by an outside call center who has no special access, that can be relegated to a chatbot. Everything else should be handled by a human with sufficient access to resolve the matter.

Thus, we need additional reassurance when prospects don't trust us enough and so a better approach is to invest in trust building so they feel that booking an appointment online is more convenient.


👤 conradludgate
In certain B2B applications where its not going to be a technical user but a business user making a decision to use a platform, I would expect the chat bot to be somewhat useful to drive conversions.

But technical users already know what to look for and how to get help if they need it. Don't nag us and force your help down our throats


👤 moooo99
I don't generally mind chatbots, but I absolutely hate how they are often implemented.

I absolutely acknowledge the fact that they can be an Amazing tool to to help with first level support. However, many companies seem to use it as a substitute for human support interaction for any kind. Companies can perfectly go ahead and use Chatbots for their first level support, but please refrain from having the customer jump through 2000 burning hoops just to talk to a human when the chatbot isn't able to help.

As for intercom, it's true that most SaaS companies have them. I assume most use it as a tool to let even the most early stage sideproject seem like a legit business backed by a team. I understand that Intercom is simple to implement and seem promising, but as soon as intecom is pinging me first without any interaction with the widget I'm leaving the site


👤 sharemywin
what did the chatbot do?

I'm always annoyed with the enter your email and we'll get back to you chatbot.

So if the chatbot actually provides some kind of value then that's different but if it's just a spambot then what's the point.

You'd probably be better off offering some kind of lead magnet to capture emails.


👤 andreineculau
A chatbot as an interface to NLP + searching a comprehensive FAQ ==> yes please! So basically improve on Google search by adding your own ontology.

But otherwise, please no. Who ever liked calling a service and click 1, 1, 9, ... ? Then why apply it to the web?

Unfortunately most pay big money to chatbots but they don't want to invest anything into building an FAQ. Mind-blowing. In 9/10 cases, I game the bot to take me to "special case, need to contact human support" as soon as possible. Because that's what many do - hide support behind the chatbot, no phone, no email, no contact form being made public...


👤 tomjen3
I hate when things jump in front of me - which chatbots tend to do.

In theory they are useful, in practice they are really, really bad and it would be quicker for me to find the help I need elsewhere.


👤 anabelarto
False 100%. We actively use chat bots and it only brings pluses. Even on our website, we want to put a chat bot to simplify communication. From day it day he will appear here https://www.mabbly.com/

👤 roland35
Fidelity has a decent chat bot, it is very easy to open/close accounts or escalate to a human.

I do feel that chat bot interfaces work better on desktop than mobile, since it doesn't take over the entire screen (example, I can type in "close account ... Then see the list of all my accounts to find the one to close without leaving the chat bot text box)


👤 short12
Absolutely. Instead of wasting my time on the phone they waste my time on the web chat

Talking to a machine is user hostile


👤 XCSme
I am fine with chat/chatbots on websites but only if they are accessible on a separate page, I don't want do be disturbed by a random chat popping up while browsing, if it does I immediately leave the website.

If I need something, I will get to you.


👤 t0suj4
When I see a chatbot on a blog I ignore it. When I see a chatbot on a support site that links me to pages I've already thoroughly searched, I loathe it. When I see a chatbot in a slack channel I use it.

By the way: chatbots will hardly ever replace web forms.


👤 skibz
By chatbot, do you mean one of those bottom-corner of the page conversation bubble overlays?

👤 taaron
Based on all the comments, we ended up disabling the chatbot on our landing page/website but keeping it on our web app.

👤 JohnFen
I don't know about everybody, but I hate them and avoid using them. They combine the worst aspects of both automated support and talking with people.