HACKER Q&A
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Who Wants to Be Fired?


Share your information if you hate your job and you need some inspiration to bail


  👤 macmcleod Accepted Answer ✓
I moved 600 miles and started a Ph.D. in January of 2020. On paper it was a great decision as: I had worked with my boss (a great boss) for several years prior, I was comfortable with and excited about the subject matter, and I knew I would keep a remote internship through my graduate degree. What an ambitious 22 year-old me didn't see was that: long distance relationships are hard, not every university works the same way, and undergraduate research is not the same as graduate level research. I'm halfway through and all I can say is that I have not thrived here - and it's not for lack of trying. Every day is a 14-hour burnout and the older I get, the less often I can push that further. I wake up every day wondering who I will disappoint and for too long have put myself and my health last. Of course it's not practical to quit, nor is it practical to fire such a low-wage worker.

👤 crate_barre
All these hiring threads today make it feel like a sports off-season. Everyone is good just not on the right team/role, and it almost feels like ‘trading’ workers or signing as a free-agent is the shakeup people are seeking.

👤 mysecretaccount
Here is a related question: has anyone ever been fired from a FAANG company? I am a high performer at one and am so stressed out I often dream of being fired, and assume there is some sort of severance.

👤 letsdothis55
Not sure yet. I just started a new job and I’m not sure if I’ll make it past the probationary period or if I’ll even want to.

It was a mistake to take it, with some alarming red flags from the very beginning, during the interview process, but I took it because I wasn’t getting many appealing options, and felt the money would be worth it. It was also moderately different than what I’d done in that last and would have a higher career value (in terms of work done, tech used, skills gain) than any of my prior work.

I’m sure I’ll perform fine technically, but culturally, I picked up on some concerns from day one and by day two I already saw them start to manifest. I figure in a month or two I’ll be able to tell whether I’m likely to be pushed out or not. I could start the job hunting process again now, but the results were pretty bad a month or two ago and it’ll just add more logistical problems. I’m already a bit stressed and unable to sleep with is just furthering the issues.

I’m just burnt out from the career in general. All the options available to me suck in one way or another. In my dreams, I’d just quit and go back to school, or even less realistic disappear and bounce arounds and travel while I figure things out, but both of those are financial suicide and would likely land me homeless without a fat paycheck backing them up.


👤 ehPReth
I want to be fired… from a canon into a brick wall

👤 fbrncci
First year of the pandemic I was job-less and filled all that time with being out in the nature, studying (programming) and working on my side projects. Then I got my first junior position about six months ago, and now I am struggle with not having time or energy to do my own things anymore. Maybe the answer isn't working 40 hours? But even then, those 8hrs at home or at the office just don't sit right with me. I really do want to quit my job, get back to being in the nature, learning more about programming/CS and just working on side projects as I please. But that is not paying the bill, and I don't have that much of a buffer. I think I may take a 6-month breather though to re-orientate myself.

👤 vips7L
My company got acquired and I was praying to be laid off and to get some severance. It didn’t happen.

👤 dexterlagan
I'm working for two clients at this time. One of them is absolutely awesome, but pays very little (media prod). The other one pays top dollar but is terrible (used computer business - booooring). If only I could switch them around. Or find a business who is doing something humanitary, or at the very least inspiring. I'm an old hacker who knows almost everything there is to know about tech. Hire me!

👤 giantg2
I hate my job.

👤 mathgladiator
16 days...

👤 pdimitar
(MAY 2021) Several months of casual conversations up until August 2021, on and off, very friendly and inviting tone all around. The leader seemed genuinely caring and nice. Had an interview take-home assignment before that, almost aced it with basically two small details that I missed, in an otherwise superbly executed homework project. Everybody was very happy and seemed genuinely excited to work with me (and the rest of the team is still asking when I will work with them to this day).

Eventually started at mid-September and I was a given a greenfield project extremely far away from what we talked that I'll work on. The "project" is basically "bootstrap a new side business for the CEO, by hopping on a crypto hype train"; happily I don't do everything there but everything on the backend and day-to-day Ops is 100% on me (at least the leader re-provisioned the servers when it was needed... once).

A few days ago the leader hinted that they'll try to hire new programmers soon and that I'll have to evaluate them. I don't even know if I will last this one last week of the project and he thinks I'll tolerate even further departures from my agreed-upon responsibilities!

The red flags are piling up.

On the other hand I was told that most of the people responsible for communicating with me on this project were extremely busy and had a lot on their plate in the personal sense as well... which is fine and I can relate because it happened with me in the past, but that has lead to me wasting part of the time on the project just thrashing around and trying to figure out WTF was I supposed to do exactly.

One other team member reached out yesterday and we had a very pleasant chat where he apologized for me being practically isolated in a new company... not to mention left with a huge responsibility on my lap to boot. And he kept reassuring me that the rest of the work in the company is nothing like this one project. I see no reason why he'd lie to me but who knows.

But I feel the damage has been done already. Plus I am not 20 year old anymore; you can't just tempt me with nice words and "team spirit". The money I get is on the mid-high end for EU but still far from enough for that level of stress.

...And I have an offer waiting for me, right now, for 2.3x the money, with a much more exciting (for me) work in the projects.

What's really saddening to me, and what disarmed me and made me grind my teeth but still push through, is that I was crystal clear that I wanted a more chill position, working on products with clear vision, clear requirements, and want to be given time to achieve excellence in my technical work (bonus points for the fact that technical excellence really does help the company's core products, by the way; I was told that by the leader and the other devs). I was promised all that and then... was practically thrown at a startup project with non-negotiable deadline, and with almost zero communication. My leader was routinely taking 5-6 days before answering anything I asked on Slack.

I can forget but I find myself unable to forgive. And I am not even sure I want to work on the originally agreed upon projects (just one week from now) anymore. I've been at this for almost 2 months and I am already severely burned out.

Because let's face it, if the company routinely conflates "senior dev" with "technical cofounder", "semi project lead", "interviewer", "ops" AND "anything and everything else we can think of", that's basically an abuse of my trust. Again, I was crystal clear about what I want in a job. I was being a professional and did not, in any form, try to force my way in through lies. I did quite the opposite!

I don't mind that such companies exist. And there are plenty of people who even thrive in these conditions. But I severely object to being lied to when I specifically didn't want to work in one!

I don't even care if they scan HN and find this thread and recognize me. Pfeh. They'll just give me one final small nudge that I need before I tell them to eff off.

Any advice or observations, guys / girls?


👤 jstx1
I never got the point of this thread, doesn't it overlap perfectly with 'who wants to be hired' i.e 'I want a different job'? What's the difference?

👤 oskargreda
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