Anyone working remotely for a US company internationally?
I've been working for small(ish) startups based in the US internationally and have had no issues. (I work as a contractor essentially)
I was wondering if anyone's got an arrangement like this going with a larger organization? I'm looking to switch jobs and try working somewhere a tad bigger.
I do this, in NZ, for a 15ish person company. I 'contract' but my contract says I get a monthly rate not hourly, and I get holidays, a couple other benefits. I pay taxes myself. My work sends me my 'salary' with transferwise every month.
That said I read about Pilot which lets you be an actual employee. They provide the tax presence that so many companies want to avoid. https://pilot.co/
Kiwi here, I work for a large US company, full time remote, nearly all of my team is in Europe - UK, Germany, Italy, Spain, Slovenia, Czechia, but I often collaborate with staff in Australia and their NZ sales teams also.
I'm employed by their NZ subsidiary so tax and employment law is all straightforward.
My initial salary offering was above local market, but definitely not SV levels.
In terms of timezone alignment, most communication is async, but there are some evening video calls, but 1 - 2 a week at most.
If you've got a way I can contact you - a reddit account would be fine, can see if my company might be up your alley.
I am, but also on a small startup. I think any larger organization will be more worried about the risks mentioned in the comments of this Ask HN that I posted recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28898198
My experience is that the sweet spot is a small organization that embraces global remote and don’t care much about hiring contractors full time, but not actively look for outside of US candidates.
Medium to large companies neither want to establish presence in other countries nor hire contractors full time.
Very large companies do not hire contractors full time but might establish presence in a few selected countries (paying local rates mostly). Stripe seems an exception that created that “remote hub” that would hire anywhere.
Small startups that actively look for full time contractors outside the US usually pay just slightly above the local market rate (they are hoping to get the margin of the salary arbitrage for themselves).
So,small startups that explicitly hire remote, but mostly advertise they jobs to American audience, but are open to hire remote globally. “Who is hiring” thread seems a good place to find those (by filtering out all the ”Remote(US)” ones)
We have a few people working as contractors internationally but it's a bit painful for both the US company and the international contractors. We're just starting to try a new approach using Deel https://www.letsdeel.com/
It's too early to give a full endorsement of them as we're just going through the process for the first couple of employees but it seems promising so far and simplifies things for both the US company (a 100+ employee 5 year old startup) and the employees who have a simpler tax situation typically under this arrangement.
I have done this from 2015-2020 for two different US based startups. The most recent one got acquired by an entity that has a German HQ and I'm now attached to that.
Both startups were Bay area based, around 50-100 people in size. Comp was about five to ten percent below bay area standards but I was making north of $180k/yr in the end.
Setup was similar to yours. I was treated as a contractor. There were a few things I had to do to make this legal on the German side but not overly complicated.
Got to travel a lot (including a round the world trip in 2017 while working remotely) and frequent visits to the US were the norm.
You can work for Disney's DMED, which is a very large IT/software organization. You would have to become a contractor through one of the agencies they work with - "Happiest Minds" or "Globant" were the two I saw used when I was there.
My current employer, Rigetti Computing, has I think 100-200 employees and has a few that are working from the UK, Australia, or Canada. But I think they would have to be especially interested in you to let you work from abroad as a new hire.
I’m based in Russia, and looks like it’s a big problem for finding a remote job, even for an experienced developers (I have 12+ years experience). I’ve already spent a number of months, looking for remote jobs in EU and US companies. And I got zero interview invites from US companies. As for EU-based, most of them require you to relocate to EU, or, sometimes they work with non-EU citizens, but the salary range will be about €50-70K for Senior level positions (which is less than I have now…)
I had only ONE interview with a EU startup, that was hiring outside of EU and offered 100k+ for senior/lead positions, but unfortunately I was not a good match for this position because of the specific technologies.
So I’m still continuing my search.
Yup, I'm doing this. I was living in the US when I interviewed in Feb 2020 but as an Australian citizen on an E-3 visa I had to leave the country to get a new one and then the pandemic happened. So far my employer has been happy to have me work remotely but the timezone offset has been pretty brutal and I'm only doing this because I hope to move back at some point early next year.
Curious question: does that also mean you get US salaries between $100K - $120K?
I recently just got an offer from an SF-based startup, I'm so excited about it because I love the product and the fact that it is open-source.
My comp is a bit adjusted by my location (Vietnam) but it's still six figures.
I'm working for a smaller US company (hitting 100 people across the whole organisation soon), as a remote employee in the UK.
The arangement is a third party hires me as an employee in the UK, where I receive all the British employment rights (holidays, etc), and I just work for the US company. This is a fairly new thing for them, previously they had only taken on non-US persons through contracting companies.
I would guess that if larger companies were going to hire abroad, they would either have a local setup to manage payroll or do something similar to where I am now. No idea how many are really offering something like that.
I'm surprised people are now discovering Deel, Pilot, etc. The so-called "professional employer organizations" have existed for a long, long time.
I am. Full time US citizen software developer living in Asia for the past 3 years. Get paid to a US bank account. Country I’m in isn’t good at collecting taxes.
I don't know if this counts, but I had to spend two weeks in Juarez Mexico last month for my wife's green card interview, and I spent a majority of that working for a US megacorporation. We're all remote-first anyway, so most of my coworkers didn't know/care about where I was located geographically. Only thing that was a bit irritating for me was having to work in a different time-zone.
Where do you find your contract US startup jobs? All I see is full time jobs on angel list. Maybe I'm not looking in the right place?
I'm wondering, how is this kind of contract structured? Do they say "work X hours a week, we'll pay you X" like a normal employee? Or do you bill for variable hours (up to a maximum) where you fill up a log? Or something else? I've only ever experienced full time/part time so I'm curious.
Are there non-Americans doing this?
The higher the org the lower the chances they would accept such an arrangement. Some allow remote work but expect you to be an employee which becomes impossible if you are from a country where they have no base so they can't legally hire you.
I work for a small(ish) US company here in Iceland as a full time employee. And sometime prior to that I worked for Autodesk also as a full time employee for a small satellite office here after a startup was aquired.
We have some employees in Canada, so they're still in North America, but they work internationally.
Actually, for us they are contractors. We only have W-2 employees here in the US.
I work at a2hosting.com and while I’m not international, a few people on my team are outside of the us and large percentage of the rest of the company is as well.
I’m working for a US startup remotely from Eastern Europe. From my experience it is easier to find startup remote jobs and I don’t mind to be honest.
my company has almost 50 full time in the US and 120+ full time internationally. x2-3 in the next 12-18 months. hiring for pretty much every possible role and willing to be creative/flexible. dm me to chat!
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I work for Microsoft in Redmond USA, and have had team members I work with daily who are outside the US.
I have two people in India working on my team. They are both remote right now.
Doing stuff @ Reddit via this sort of thing.