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📣 godDLL

What does HN think of the new 14“ MacBook Pro?


Apple has shown us the Monterey-powered M1 pro and max laptops, and they are even faster. The keyboards seem to be fixed.

But is it what we want?

1. S3 standby/sleep support required

2. low weight for luggability, 2.5lb maximum

3. survives table-to-floor falls

4. always-on-AC battery deaths unacceptible

5. survives being in a bag, accidental activation

6. Linux support for all hardware

7. trackpads on par with Apple, at least

8. keyboards with clear actuation, spill resistance and backlighting

9. kill switches or modular hardware for camera and mic

10. bright matte screens, with vertical space

11. memory and I/O performance approaching Apple's M1 SoC

12. HDMI, USB-A, 3.5mm, 10gbE, SD, USB-C periferals are what people own, support that

13. trackpoints are great for text-editing

14. quiet operation, no blinken-lights

15. prefer no webcam over shitty webcam, no BT/WiFi over shitty BT/WiFi

16. USB-C charging, Thunderbolt 4 both sides, GPU that can be turned on and off

This list is compiled from an Ask HN two days back https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28861949

And here are some laptops mentioned as OK in that thread:

0. MacBook Air M1 (newcomer), Framework (if you can get one)

1. Old school ThinkPads (some of them, like X220), X1 gen9 Carbon ThinkPads

2. MacBook Pros 2013-2015

3. Dell XPSs aimed at developers (some of those), HP Elitebook 840, Asus Zephyrus G14

4. MacBooks before touchstrip, Purism/Librem 14

5. Chrome-books (some of those), Lenovo Yoga 7 PRO, ASUS Zenbook Flip

As for myself, I see Apple moving in a direction I don't care for. Both the hardware and the software.

I'm not buying a laptop this year, again.

Please share your thoughts, and favourite laptops.


  👤 thecrumb Accepted Answer ✓
I've decided next laptop I'm going to support the Framework group. They are building what I want. Apple isn't.

👤 rvz
Apart from the CPUs, once again; it is a no deal from me and another year of waiting.