HACKER Q&A
📣 throwaway53459

What can I do to actively fight climate change?


I work as a software engineer at a big company and want to actively and directly in some way help fight climate change. Volunteering part time, maybe working full time on whatever it is if I can support myself. I feel like my skills could be useful but I’m not sure what problems specifically are important and relevant to my skillset.


  👤 andrewljohnson Accepted Answer ✓
Ignore the crunchy comments saying don't eat meat, don't have kids, and don't drive. You have no impact as a consumer or influencer.

What you can do is:

* a) find someone working on climate change, and help write software for them part-time as a volunteer

* b) brainstorm an idea for a site/app, and build it yourself (and of course post it to HN)

* c) quit your job, join an organization focused on climate change, and do some work

* d) start researching more about climate change until you can make a better choice about a or b or c

If you can't commit a big chunk of time to it, then research good orgs focused on climate change, and donate money to them (or angel invest in them). That's the next best thing you can do.


👤 rsd79
Work remotely and advocate for it. I can't understand how moving around a third of population of the planet every day, sometimes with 1-2h commute, is acceptable in terms of wasted resources and time.

We've done it due to Covid and it mostly worked OK. Now it has to be improved and expanded.


👤 kstenerud
The main issue now is how little time we have left. We're already past the tipping point, and there's about a 30-50 year horizon before it's too late to do anything at all.

This means that the following are going to take too long:

- "Doing your part", i.e. the regular "don't eat meat", "consume environmentally friendly things", and all those things that will only work over a horizon of 100+ years.

- Accumulating a ton of wealth and then using it to lobby. This would have worked 50 years ago but we need people to use this kind of big money NOW.

- Helping activists set up their websites and other tech things. We're past the point where activism alone will save us.

Our world has just started runaway heating, and Arctic methane is now being released, which is 100x worse than carbon. The ONLY thing that can save us at this point is a hail Mary shot of sequestration of greenhouse gases and at the same time, active cooling of the planet. Build this kind of tech, or join others building it. There are a few companies coming out that do this kind of thing. We need breathing room above all else, because even with tech 50 years is very little time.

Edit: Aaaand now the downvotes. I don't know why I even bother contributing here.


👤 smt88
As long as you need a market-rate salary, go work for a company that is carbon-negative if you can (e.g. carbon capture or clean energy). One that is vocally pro-enviroment and carbon-neutral would also be an accomplishment.

If you need less money, work for a nonprofit focused on environmental issues or research. Working for a politician's campaign might be a good way to apply tech, marketing, or management skills.

Don't volunteer. The vast majority of the value is for the volunteer, not for the nonprofit.

When you're a (very) part-time volunteer, you'll never get deep enough into their problems that your contributions will outweigh the cost to manage/train you.

It's better to advance your own career and donate money to full-time people who are able to devote all of their work time to the issue.

(Source: ran a nonprofit for a few years that sourced skilled volunteers for other orgs)


👤 eappleby
I feel the same way. My current company almost runs itself, so I've been spending a lot of time exploring ways I can help with climate change. Here is what I have been doing:

* Reading a lot! I recommend Bill Gates' "How to Avoid a Climate Disaster" and Paul Hawken's "Drawdown". The path to zero carbon emissions seems impossible, but the more I read, the more the solutions seem intertwined, which gives me hope.

* Writing down my ideas and the information I learn. Helps me to organize my thoughts and find the holes in my thinking. Here is a link to my blog (this is the first time I've shared it with anyone other than my wife): https://simpleclimatefixes.herokuapp.com/

* Talking to people. I have a few friends that work in sustainability and in the energy sector. I have also been calling and meeting with local solar panel installers and manufacturers. Trying to understand the challenges they face.

* Coming up with ideas and trying to build them. I'd be happy to help other businesses (probably part-time, but potentially full-time), but I think I'll be more useful if I have a better understanding of the landscape and there is no better way to be acquainted with an industry than trying to start a business in it.

I'm currently in the early stages of vetting an idea in the residential solar panel industry. I'd be happy to share it if anyone is interested. Love to hear feedback!


👤 lykr0n
I do:

1. Run a small solar array on my balcony, with recycled lithium batteries for storage. I've made ~100kW of power which I use to basically charge all my devices.

2. Growing Algae two do two things- producing biomass to convert into bio-fuel down the road, and remove carbon from the air.

Rooftop solar & going electric (and destroying your gas car so you're taking it off the road) is the easiest to do, followed by helping others do the same. Off the top of my head, if you own your house see if you can work out a group deal with your neighbors and subsidize their cost. https://ecologi.com and https://www.arcadia.com can give you a feeling of doing something (while actually doing something, even if it's very small.

None of these things really move the needle. If you want to do something, the cold reality of it is some constructive destructive actions need to be taken against the largest polluters- energy companies, major food conglomerates that consume large amounts of plastic, commercial shipping, and others. Pick your poison.

Yoooo. So here's an actual, legit idea I have. A community platform to raise money to donate roof-top solar systems to public schools. Has to be focused, where it's clear the goal and the target area. "We're raising $1,000,000 to fund a solar system in this region. Here are our candidates and our local contract partner." Once that's accomplished, you find a school and get the green light. You work with the contractor to secure an actual cost, and then fundraise for the rest. Then it's installed. Target schools and districts in areas of high coal/dirty power and fund-raise for a full roof-top system for them with some energy storage.

This does two things- allows the schools to spend money elsewhere which helps improve the quality of life in the are (and I'm sure it will be known where the money comes from, but also removes a fairly large consumer of municipal energy.


👤 Arete314159
Activists are long on ideas but short on technical know-how. Someone like you, willing to volunteer your skills even part-time, would be a God send.

I would suggest focusing on work that motivates and scales, just as people do in the for-profit sector. Activism that puts political and economic pressure on the large corporations who are the worst polluters provide the biggest bang for the buck. As just one example, there is a movement to divest from fossil fuel companies. Better software might help activists reach more people and mobilize them to pressure the boards of the universities they work for, etc.

Another issue we currently have in the country is that corporate interests collect huge amounts of data to sway elections, while activists without those same deep pockets are outmatched and outgunned. So any software that helps support voter turnout, voter equity, etc., would also indirectly help address climate change and other injustices.


👤 bonniemuffin
I don't think my skills are super applicable to working on climate change directly, so instead I work for big tech and donate to charities from this list. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/12/2/20976180/climat...

If you're not totally set on doing direct work for climate change, you could consider a similar strategy. In my case, I think it's probably more impactful than I could be if I tried to pivot into a climate-related career.


👤 DantesKite
Probably coding a website to make it easy to lobby for nuclear reactors in the US.

Ironically enough, even though Chinese is the biggest contributor of greenhouse gases right now, they're likely going to be the least in a few decades, considering how much engineering they're putting into nuclear reactor research and experimentation.


👤 jazzyjackson
I enjoyed this episode of "Ologies" talking to an artist, Andy Hall [0] working on what he calls the "The Drawdown Design Project" - creating inspirational posters and raising money to go towards the rainforest coalition.

Basically he had the same question, talks about the themes in the posters, empower - engage - cultivate - electrify. When asked what the average person can do, his answer was basically 'donate money to elect democrats' and honestly I agree. You can spend thousands of dollars or thousands of hours of volunteering, but its the politicians that are deciding how to spend trillions. Outside of that, I can recommend the book "Climate - a new story" by Charles Eisenstein, it argues against focusing on a single metric of CO2 ppm (and includes an aside on the war-analogy we default to when we decide to fight something ;). Basically it suggests we focus more on creating a healthy biosphere, explains the connections between weather, chemistry, and life. It's got me convinced that planting trees is the right approach, but not just to sequester carbon, but to increase the amount and variety of life on earth.

[0] https://www.alieward.com/ologies/drawdowndesignproject


👤 0x000000001
Climate change can't be fought on a personal level. That's just propaganda to shift responsibility onto the individual consumer and there are plenty of bleeding hearts out there that eat it up and conjure up guilt for something out of their control on a macro level

👤 staunch
Working at Tesla, or another car company working on EVs, is one of the most direct ways to immediately have a big positive impact.

But working for "the next Tesla" would be the most potential positive impact, given that Tesla has already achieved its goal of forcing the car industry towards EVs.

You could make a list of the most harmful industries and work at a company trying to force them into change, like Tesla is doing with the auto industry.


👤 literallyaduck
Write up a proposal to become your company's environmental officer if your company doesn't have one, if they do, contact them and as how you can help lead the effort.

Lobby your company to create eco scholarships to fund ecological degrees.

Work on 3d modeling and help design devices which can change how we build homes and lower energy costs through passive designs.

Find ecology centric open-source projects and donate your skills.


👤 pl-94
I know you'll hate what I say, but us, engineers, we are basically useless for the climate change. Maybe just harmful.

We are trained to build a carbon intensive world. Our tools, our philosophy and our expectation require ssomehow more clusters hidden on a fancy new cloud architecture. Our optimization will be not compensated by the rebound effect.

Personally, I am totally a part of it. My neural networks require 64 V100 GPUs to be trained. And that's the optimized version!

I think we should seriously reset our way of life and create a new fun life that is sustainable and inspiring.

I believe that the agriculture is the area with the highest leverage effect. So my plan for the next 3 years is to sell all the shits I invested in, buy a farm, grow vegetables without chemical fertilizers, and invite my friends in joining this journey. What not adding some visual based monoriting tools or, some small robots, to automatize and scale this permaculture approach. That's fun and I am not so bad at it.


👤 tengbretson
The comments here seem to think that children raised by what appears to be an intelligent, service-minded individual will not be a net asset in addressing the problems the future holds. I disagree.

👤 tbihl
Have/raise multiple kids. High-income, high-education parents generally have similar children, which makes them disproportionately likely to live low-consumption lifestyles and to do work that is important to future societal problems like climate problems (future in that obviously the ramp for this is decades long.)

👤 pacifist
Don't be discouraged by posts in this thread. Yes, you can make a difference. I've been driving a biodiesel for 20+ years. I hardly drive these days anyway. As a dev you're in a good position to pull it off. Just stop driving(walking/cycling is good for you and good for the earth), don't fly, and no more babies. Do you really want to bring a child into what's coming down the pike?

I looked into the vegan vs locavore tussle and it seems to me they fought to a standstill. So I still eat meat(I'm low carb for health reasons). I buy from the farmers market and I'm lucky to have access to a local bison farm(carbon negative - look it up).


👤 kibbleble
Write good, unbloated code that doesn't wear out parts faster, so that people don't feel like throwing away their perfectly fine laptops because it's gotten "too slow"

👤 Glench
Write your senator and politician first! It’s easy and they actually do count the letters and calls they receive and use those to make decisions.

Next I’d say decarbonize your life! Most people emit everyday carbon from a small number of big things: transport, home heating and cooling, etc. Luckily, all the fossil fuel powered machines that do these things have electric replacements that actually save money in the long run! Electric cars already have the lowest cost of ownership of any car and heat pump space and water heaters are waaay more efficient than burning gas or oil. So replace you car with an electric the next time you need a car, replace your furnace with a heat pump, replace your gas stove with an induction stove, etc. Pretty much everyone in America needs to do this ASSP if we have any chance of hitting 2 degrees and your example would influence those around you.

You can also donate to Rewiring America which is the only organization I’ve found with an actual concrete engineering-based plan to meet climate goals: https://rewiringamerica.org


👤 snarkypixel
Biggest problem about climate change is political correctness. We're too afraid to talk about the real problems and solutions because of "votes". Instead, we focus on small wins without any real impacts because it's "safe" and make people happy, like recycling.

Real problem and solutions:

  - energy -> Need hydro or nuclear. Everything else is just marketing bullshit. Windmills aren't reliable, you still need a way to store the energy and have a backup. If you factor in the cost of that backup and other solutions, you soon realize that hydro (or nuclear if hydro isn't possible) is way more cost efficient.

  - transportation -> Living in a suburb should have a penalty cost. Just compare the environmental impact between an apartment in a city and a mansion in a suburb with 5 cars. One is killing the planet much faster, there should be a penalty for it. I'm not saying forbid living in a suburb, I'm saying there should be an additional cost to living in a suburb because of the environmental impact.

  - greenhouse gases -> penalty cost in proportion to the damage caused (for instance, buying meat from livestock should be WAY more expensive.)
I'm not a climate change expert, but I do know that people react to incentive. And right now, there's no penalty to killing the planet so we can't blame people for making the decisions they're making. And policy makers can't set real policies because of fear (rightfully so) of not being elected.

It seems like we'll need to wait until the Earth is almost doomed before implementing these policies, but then it might be too late. Maybe another way is to have a "bad guy climate change" that all political party would need to take into account as part of their mandate, so the votes would be about who can best solve these issues rather than whether they should be tackled.


👤 scythe
Work for a PR firm or something similar that supports government action to fight climate change. I know that political marketing probably feels like the dirtiest profession out there, but the biggest obstacle to fighting climate change in the present day isn't can't, it's won't. And recent elections have shown the unreasonable (although frankly dangerous) effectiveness of data science in modern politics. As long as we can't beat 'em, we might as well join 'em.

If you don't want to do politics, it seems like something related to modeling and/or controlling machinery is probably relevant. Solar concentrators for high-temperature manufacturing (particularly cement/aluminium), ultra-high-temperature electrolysis of steel, and better heat pumps to replace gas heaters, all come to mind as important carbon-reducing technologies that might require a software component, although I can't say exactly how.


👤 Cryptonic
Convince policy makers to drive and guide innovation and policies .

We won't make it with individual contributions of consuming a bit less. Of course it makes sense to do it at some degree.

Go to every climate strike out there. Including 24.09.2021 is the next global climate strike. Make sure to be there and take your family, friends and colleagues with you.


👤 toomuchtodo
1. Vote for representatives who believe in climate change or run for office yourself.

2. Have less kids or no kids.

3. Drive an EV or don't own a car at all (if possible).

4. Avoid air travel.

5. Eat less meat or no meat.

6. Work for companies who are growing rapidly in the EV, renewable energy/energy storage, carbon sequestration, and lab grown ag space. Push out fossil fuel usage for electricity and transportation.

(in that order)

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/12/want-to-...

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aa7541


👤 aussiethebob
I feel like the biggest problem with climate change is one of collective action.

Lets start with the assumption that it is possible to make a meaningful impact on climate change by significantly reducing our consumption, this requires significant sacrifices to an individuals lifestyle.

I'm talking big pictured stuff like not eating meat, no more international travel, no personal vehicles, less spend on medicine reducing life expectancy, limits on number of children.

Lets say we have credible evidence that if these things are done the situation will improve.

Now whether you take the perspective of being an individual, member of a community or even a country, why would you make those sacrifices if you have no guarantee that everyone else will. It's a big price to pay to 'set an example'.


👤 daxfohl
Read up on biology and engineer a virus that creates a worldwide pandemic. It'll shut down cities, keep people from leaving their homes, decimate air travel industry, shut down manufacturing, and create an international supply chain crisis.

If that doesn't work we're fucked.


👤 DoreenMichele
I think, in all seriousness, this isn't something you solve by asking random internet strangers for blurbs. You need to get in the habit of reading up, educating yourself and commit to finding an answer that makes sense to you.

I wish it were easier. I don't believe it is.


👤 a_square_peg
I run a climate/weather data site (https://oikolab.com) and if you'd like to give feedback on the API design and the service, it would be much appreciated.

Happy to relax restrictions for you to access data if you'd like to poke around and interested in understanding how climate has changed in various locations around the world.



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👤 softwaredoug
I think just _reducing_ meat consumption can go a long way. We don’t all have to be vegetarians. Maybe if we treated meat like most treat alcohol - maybe something we do on special occasions like holidays or a unique restaurant. But why have your default lunch be the deli counter mystery meat ham?

👤 worstestes
Stop eating meat.

👤 smarri
I have this nihilistic thought experiment that's it's already too late, and we should otherwise prepare for the inevitable. I hope I'm wrong, but nonetheless, maybe we can't fight it.

👤 pilingual
Tito can’t be on HN 24/7, I suppose.

Join Airminers! Carbon capture is really the only solution at this point. https://airminers.org/


👤 satya71
Stop eating meat and make it easy for people to find out why and how.

👤 kleer001
Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

did a great video on this earlier today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiw6_JakZFc


👤 reportgunner
Perhaps start researching what this "climate change" actually is. If you understood what it is you would probably know what to do to actively fight it.

👤 chickenpotpie
I’m a big fan of effective altruism. To be honest, the best way a software engineer can help climate change is to make a lot of money and donate a lot of it.

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👤 trinovantes
You'll probably make the biggest impact by working at a hedge fund and use your excess disposable income to lobby for change

👤 t0bia_s
Idea of hot having kids is socio-pathological ideology. Not having kids means more selfishness. Maybe more money. Big companies can profit from it. Familly with 5 kids probably wont need or even be able to buy Lamborghini. Also this idea is dead by itself, because basically just deny natural life.

Of course we don't need eat meat every day but stop eating meat completely sounds like hypocrisy for me and could be dangerous for health, especially for kids.



👤 chrisweekly
To those who suggest "don't have kids": if everyone who cares about saving the planet followed your advice, what would the voting population look like a couple decades from now? I say instead, have children and raise them to be the kind of ethical, courageous, well-educated leaders our future so desperately needs.

👤 hermannj314
There are two things you can do.

1. Think about how many kids you want to have and then have at least one less than that number (assuming your number was greater than zero to begin with).

2. Give these two answers whenever you are asked this question in the future.


👤 mikewarot
Until we solve the problem of regulatory capture, there is nothing that can be done on the individual level that will make a big enough dent in reality.

👤 daxfohl
Petition for reducing the national debt. As I see it, this money eventually gets turned into carbon in some way or other. This means you may need to let go of some special interests, no matter which side you're on.

But additionally I'd say it's something that conservatives and liberals can agree on. We'll disagree on what to cut, but I think lots of people see the national debt as a problem. To make any dent in this whole thing we'll need support from both sides. It's no help to communicate in an echo chamber.


👤 itake
don't procreate. stop eating meat. vote.

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👤 gameswithgo
Convince people to have less children would be the biggest lever in that fight. Do what you can to advance and promote wind, solar, and nuclear power, and electric transportation. If you do the latter without also addressing the former, you fall afoul of Jevon's Paradox.

👤 AzzieElbab
Go nuckelar, and carbon extraction

👤 volfyd
Stop eating meat, eggs, and dairy. No ocean cruises. Limit flying.

Look up "effective altruism" and find some recommended charities to donate to.


👤 bberenberg
Depends on the timeline. Long term unsexy answer is don’t have kids. Compounding matters.

👤 dshpala
How "don't have kids" is any different than "kill yourself now"?

Surely that'll help even more, since it includes everything at once - no meat consumption, no travel, no cars, etc.


👤 petermcneeley
Create The Matrix(1999). As a SWE it is your best bet. Everything from eating to travel can all be done from within cyberspace.

Edit: This guy eats meat without any greenhouse emissions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO-LFVHpA4s