HACKER Q&A
📣 anthropodie

What we as community can do to adopt IPv6 faster?


All I can think of is tweeting, emailing big corps or maybe creating a petition, so that these companies take this seriously. Anything else that you guys think maybe more effective?


  👤 grawlinson Accepted Answer ✓
My ISP (My Republic; a Singaporean company operating in New Zealand) does not provide IPv6, and I’ve emailed with a request for IPv6.

There’s no need for it, apparently.


👤 speedgoose
IPv6 is 25 years old and most companies and people do not care about it. In my opinion it's time for everyone to admit that it has been a failure and move on.

The next internet protocol should have stronger arguments, and perhaps start with being interoperable with IPv4.


👤 vorador
Genuine question, what do we get out of adopting IPv6? I remember being told for years that we'd run out of IP addresses (which hasn't happened thanks to NAT). What are the advantages of IPv6 from a practical standpoint?

👤 toast0
Do companies take tweets, emails or petitions seriously?

IPv6 adoption is going to drag along, unless there is a compelling reason for people at large to adopt it.

There are reasons, but most of them don't apply to companies that either have enough v4 space or have enough budget to get the space they need.

As more consumer networks push towards v6 first/better, you'll see more hosting support v6 as an equal option rather than a second class option, but I don't think we're there yet. A lot of LTE networks do v6 as well or better than v4, but a lot of residential networks still don't do v6 or do it half-ass. A host doesn't lose a lot by being v4only, dualstack adds extra complexity, and v6only loses a lot of potential customers.


👤 yrro
I think I'll be dead and buried before my ISP (Virgin Media) rolls out IPv6!

👤 taf2
If possible make sure your company websites support ipv6… maybe it’ll be a competitive advantage… I can’t force Verizon to support ipv6 but I can make sure the websites I host or work on do…

👤 rurban
We don't want IPv6.

We don't need it because we can NAT.

We don't want it because we prefer privacy, not being easily tracked all over. Router walls over firewalls.

Multicasting didn't work out neither. No common ISP invested into more RAM for their routers just to stream a TV show more efficiently.

QoS contradicts the basic internet policies.


👤 tomklein
I wrote a custom DNS nameserver and a resolver for an upcoming project. I implemented it IPv6 first. I think as more we support and use IPv6, as more it’ll be adopted.

👤 geofft
Why do you want to adopt IPv6 faster?

Personally I think the only realistic move is to advocate for an IPv7, which is backwards-compatible with IPv4 (keep ARP, keep classless addressing, keep DHCPv4, keep seeing NAT as acceptable, don't rely on multicast, etc.) instead of the wacky re-engineering project that IPv6 is. There's a clear need to get more addresses. There's not a clear need for all the other stuff being pushed as part of IPv6.