HACKER Q&A
📣 dageshi

Has Google search got noticably worse recently?


I'm not usually on the bash Google bandwagon, up until very recently Google Search has worked perfectly well for me. But I'd say in the past month or two I've begun to notice that for some queries where I'm searching for something I know exists it just doesn't seem to work very well?

Specifically this has been around looking for specific episodes of podcasts, youtube videos or news articles that I know exist and I know I'm using search terms that line up with what's in the descriptions/content of these media.

The specific example that pushed me over the edge to write this was searching for a news article I know exists on Battlefield 1 sales numbers, instead google's showing me the standard stuff (wiki articles that don't have what I'm looking for) and telling me about battlefield V or the new battlefield that's about to release.

I'm not sure what they're doing but it's starting to feel noticeably worse than it was before.


  👤 uniqueid Accepted Answer ✓
The puck has been traveling in the wrong direction for years now:

Ask HN: Has Google search been worse at finding information lately? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26460092

Google's search results have gotten worse https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26352219

What Is Going on at Google? 'The search engine is becoming worse by the month' https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26187421

Ask HN: Are Google products getting worse? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25139358

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👤 moepstar
It has gotten worse in the recent years, i've been using DDG as a default for years now and occasionally resort to the !G bang.

What's more concerning is the blatant rise of SEO-spam even on page one - for technical queries at least (on Google).

Most of the time they're in the format of

threeletterrandomsubdomain.domain.tld/3to5chars/morerandomchars.html

Example:

xfvh.companydomain.it/yrrz/vhhv3asdf.html

To be honest, i didn't bother to take the chance and look what's behind such an URL - but i guess it's some sort of malware or - best case scenario - just ads...

Once you've seen them, it's kinda easy to notice their patterns and avoid them - but it just takes a second where you have your guard down and then... who knows...

I shudder to think what attacks happen to less technically minded people, like my parents. I bet they don't give clicking a result on a Google SERP a second thought...

Aside: I've seen those being mostly from Italy (.it TLD) - not sure if it's because i'm from .de and those are ranked higher because of geolocation...


👤 glangdale
Agreed. Same general thing: I wind up putting search strings in to find specific things that I know exist and Google happily spams me with all sorts of irrelevant garbage. I often have to go crazy with quotes and with lots of extra keywords to finally make all the spam-results go away and find what I was looking for.

👤 wizardofmysore
It's fine for general search queries but really poor for long tail queries.

Generally its low quality content designed to rank top over high quality articles written by unknown publication.


👤 shash7
Its pretty horrible now. I append 'reddit ' to almost every search query.

👤 TZubiri
A less cringy demonstration of Google's problems with monetizing searchies are greek letters.

If you search for delta you have to sift through delta airlines and delta stores before you can read about the letter or the geographic feature.

Same for finding images of the letter iota, no, just a page full of some cryptocoin's logo.

I tie this trend to the recent announcements that free storage for gmail, google photos and drive, is ending. Google offers services that have a recurring cost for free, as time goes by this cost scales linearly, so the pressure to monetize other assets increases every year.


👤 spurgu
Also, whatever information you're looking for you tend to mostly get products as a response.

👤 hidden-spyder
The amount of SEO-spam I encounter on my searches has definitely grown a lot.

I'm a bit afraid that this will make it more difficult, if not impossible, to reach good webpages. Personal blogs seem like they're not prioritized anymore. I have to append operators like `site:*.github.io` or `site:reddit.com` to get good results now.

Does anyone have any idea on how we could work on mitigating this degradation of search results?

Creating manually maintained lists of the best resources, blog posts, discord servers, articles, videos, etc. related to a topic seems like a viable solution to me. Some subreddits maintain their own wikis that already achieve this for some topics and so do the awesome-* repos on GitHub, but these are few in number.

I want to see more efforts being poured into this, but see no community actively working on this with goals in sight. Do their exist any that I have missed? Or is anyone interested in creating one? I'd be happy to help!


👤 rcarmo
I switched to DuckDuckGo on a permanent basis for around a year now. What I’ve noticed:

- I find myself doing “!g query” every now and then because I can’t find some very specific things (typically dev-related), but I can find 80-90% of the stuff I want in the first page. - The index takes a long time to update (if I post something on my blog - which uses ddg for site search - it may take up to a week to show up) - Comparatively zero nuisances (although there are so many spam blogs out there with gear reviews that they have pretty much the same effect as search ads)

In general, I’m happy, but I would agree that search, in general, has become worse over the past five years or so, as regardless of what engine I use, I now have to be much more specific about what I want and scroll through one or two pages of results before I find what I need.


👤 FinanceAnon
Is Google search getting worse or are spammers playing SEO better?

👤 xnx
I continue to find Google search immensely valuable and am continuously impressed at how well it performs in finding something I know exists as well as getting me to the right information I don't know. Often I get the answer I need right in auto-complete like when I was recently trying to remember the name of the Sri Chinmoy Self-Transcendence race.

👤 whitepaint
To me it seems they are way better than before. Very often I get my answers immediately without even needing to click on a link.

👤 sys_64738
Not sure but Google could do something to help improve DDG search results.

👤 snickersnee11
For sure it's a reason to try something else.

👤 amelius
Are there any benchmarks for search?

👤 willcate
Yes, I've noticed that also.

👤 ronyfadel
Hi OP. Out of curiosity, does any other search engine come up with the Battlefield 1 sales numbers?