HACKER Q&A
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HN alternative which isn't permeated by corporate kool aid drinkers?


I recently got downvoted into oblivion by criticizing Google.

That made me realize that maybe the percentage of users who are biased in their judgement by working at FAANG is too high here.

Is there something similar to Hackernews which is less influenced by corporate interests?


  👤 pvg Accepted Answer ✓
You mean this thing?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26912977

Probably wasn't downvoted because of some roaming downvote squad of FAANG-employed users. Lots of more straightforward reasons you can see here

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


👤 mrweasel
I honestly don’t agree, I’ve posted comments that have been critical of Google, Facebook, Apple and Amazon, and those seems to get plenty of upvotes. So maybe you was just wrong, poorly worded, off topic or something else entirely?

The comment I write that get the most downvotes are comments where I honestly did not explain my position all that well and others misunderstand my comment.

In general try not to worry to much about up- or downvotes. They don’t really matter and can just as much reflect the current mood and situation of the person voting.

Still also try to reflect on your downvoted posts. Where you perhaps wrong? If not, use the opportunity to refine and clarify you position and arguments in the future. If you can’t formulate your critisism, then perhaps don’t comment until you can, if upvotes matter that much to you.


👤 napsterbr
Feedback: I was one of the downvoters. I didn't downvote you because you were "criticizing" Google. I downvoted you because your points were non sensical, inflammatory and irrelevant to the discussion.

I have no ties to Google, I don't live in the US, I'll never work in a FAANG and in fact I dislike Google likely as much as you do.


👤 papaf
For me, the biggest problem at the moment on the internet are bubbles where people are not being exposed to different viewpoints.

I would stick with HN and live with the downvotes. It also helps to make any criticism polite.


👤 dang
Your comments in that thread were shallow flamewar of the sort that we're trying to get away from on this site. People should certainly downvote and/or flag such posts. The reasons have nothing to do with "corporate interests"—just trying to have an internet forum that isn't lame.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


👤 fsflover
I constantly criticize Google, Apple and Co. here and I (almost) do not get downvoted. Perhaps you should try to make a more balanced and justified criticism.

👤 h2odragon
Why do votes matter, up or down?

Do you upvote or downvote based on agreement, or whether you thought the comment was worth reading, well said, important point, etc? Do you assume others are doing the same, and your vote counts reflect that?

I say votes dont matter; people hit those buttons for many reasons and we'll never know what those reasons were and shouldn't care.

If you felt it was worth saying, good. If you still do, better. If others disagree or not, here on HN; does it actually matter? Does it matter any more if they voted for grammar over content?


👤 wrinkl3
You probably want GNU-centric social spaces. Any other type of programming-focused board will inevitably become dominated by people who work at the biggest companies that employ software devs.

👤 emrah

👤 eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7
Heh so this thread also got flagged.

Guess a point has been made by that?