It makes me wonder, for those of you who use Chrome and browse this site (implying you're above average in tech knowledge, privacy worries, etc), why do you use Chrome?
Supposedly people said Edge is Chromium based, and is better, less memory usage, etc. I tried it, it just feels more clunky, takes longer to open, pages take longer to load. I also dislike the interface, chrome's interface seems more natural to me. And of course doesn't have the same extensions.
Firefox feels faster than chrome for certain sites, but I find it has issues with other sites. Might be because sites design for Chrome these days. Also Firefox like the original Netscape has random freezes and bugs. A lot less, but I find chrome just works most of the time with less problems.
An example site I can think of, off the top of my head, youtube works way smoother in chrome than firefox. I'm not a huge youtube fan but lately I've been trying to view content that happens to be only available on youtube. Opera has even worse youtube support.
I can't remember why I stopped using Chromium but I think it was a lack of extension support. I recalled it lacked something Chrome had that was important to me. If it's important to you, I can use it again so I can remind myself what it was.
For the record I do use Firefox as my backup browser, and I would say it's better than Chrome at some things (it loads certain sites faster, and has better extension support), and better privacy options, but overall Chrome works better for every site.
* GPU acceleration doesn't work properly with Firefox/Linux (Dell G5 SE, Ryzen 4800H). Some sites I use daily, such as Google Maps, are painfully slow/laggy on Firefox.
* There's something about the Firefox's scrolling behaviour that I find really annoying.
* It works well across all platforms (Firefox on Android wasn't great last time I checked).
* It's the most tested browser. Many websites don't bother to test with Firefox.
* Chrome has the richest extension ecosystem.
* Some of the alternatives, such as Brave are not as trustworthy. Security is a bigger concern than privacy for me. Google has one of the best security track records.
* I'm heavily invested in the Google ecosystem, and I use dozens of their products. There's always a switching cost involved. Just changing the browser has a negligable effect on privacy if I'm constantly using the other Google services.
* Personally had overall an overwhelmingly positive experience over the last 15+ years I've been in the Google ecosystem. Google hasn't done anything to betray my trust so far.
Chrome also just by far has the best compatibility throughout the web. Whenever I try going to another browser, I always keep a copy of Chrome just so that I can pay utilities (because, of course, their site is broken on Safari, for example).
Also, I use all three major desktop OSes, and Chrome has been the most consistent throughout all 3. Firefox use to have serious rendering issues on macOS; I believe they may have been fixed but I can't be arsed to keep track of that.
It’s much like deciding which nutritional studies to trust when most people aren’t scientists and are just reposting memes.
And although I don’t know what’s going on anymore, I have residual trust in the Chrome team since I used to work for Google.
Firefox looks bad. For example:
- the spacing between the home button and the search bar
- why there's a line at the top of the current tab? The way Chrome distinguishes the current tab looks "better""
- the "back", "forward" and "refresh" buttons look big
I open a lot of tabs and keep my browser open for days. After a while, Firefox becomes slow, while Chromium always feels fast. It's hard to measure, but it's real. In addition, sometimes I encounter sites that do not work or are slower in Firefox (I don't have an example in my mind right now).
Also, more than once, I see that something is not supported/slower in Firefox just because of some unresolved bugs. They get fixed after a while, but that makes Chrome always ahead and ready when you need a specific feature right away. See for example:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26189604 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25916574 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24801058 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23690908 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22943131 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24896489
Most developers develop for Chrome and don't even consider Firefox.
I'm not particularly fond of Google (and growing less fond by-the-week) but the best I can do for now is use Firefox for 95% of things and keep Chrome around for the rest.
- Best devtools, particularity regarding how the tools feel to browse around in.
- Feels slightly better to browse with. Only small differences, like how scroll is just a bit "smooth".
- Looks better ui-wise. (arguably a personal take, but also arguably not)
- (as others will note) Because it's essentially standard at this point, and I work with webdev.
I use chromium though, at least it makes things less google-y. And I thoroughly dislike the Alphabet-monopoly situation and all the bad things it brings. I really wish browsers were far less centralized than they are right now, and that some kind of web-standards consortium worked better than it does. But I don't pretend to be able to fix things like that right now. Besides, at this point, the whole Alphabet-monopoly situation is arguably a political issue rather than a technical one. (Political issues require political solutions)
Why don't I switch? I haven't seen anything about Chrome re. privacy that has really bothered me personally, but I'm also the guy who clicks accept on cookie prompts. More immediately, I'm kept on Chrome by the Google ecosystem and not wanting to configure+migrate with something new.
Sources: https://www.zerodium.com/program.html
https://www.zerodayinitiative.com/blog/2021/1/25/announcing-...
Given which, I might have switched to Firefox for some uses after a recent OpenBSD release where I think it got the pledlge/unveil support (preventing it from accessing the computer beyond config-specified limits), except for the JS/cookies/images config stuff (and that I got the impression the pledge/unveil stuff might be less useful in a less-well-organized code base...?).
One thing I wish I knew about firefox is a way, without extensions/add-ons, to limit which sites can use javascript/images/etc., and/or to open multiple config tabs at once to quickly turn those on by exception for occasional specific sites, as I do with chrome. Exception lists, even better. This was discussed a little bit at those above links.
[When I said those things before, someone replied helpfully, here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21724710 ].
EDIT: I used to use Webex with Chrome also, but it mostly works fine now on Firefox, even for screen sharing. The only bug I've encountered is that the mute button occasionally doesn't work (audio not muted, but button says "unmute" and has no effect) and I have to rejoin the meeting. When the button works, it stays working for the duration of the meeting.
I believe I saw (2,8) cases where the error (was not, was) also present in Chrome.
I don't want to think about browsers - I use a browser to visit websites. Chrome works for virtually all websites I visit, and doesn't cause too many issues. Maybe Firefox does as well, but I'm too lazy to try out, unless it has something seriously better to offer.
In Chrome you have pretty little button you click on that lists all your profiles in a nice looking way; with two actions you're done.
In Firefox, you have to type about:profiles, you get a horrendously looking list with all sorts of useless information, it's just a pain to access and look at.
Implement the same UX Chrome has for profiles in Firefox and you'll get more people on board.
* Netflix - I think I started doing this back when it wasn't fully supported in Firefox and now it's more of a reflex than for any major reason.
* Google Meet/Slack video calls. Every so often I try to run a Meet in Firefox. The audio works flawlessly but video seems to regularly freeze.
* For the few sites that the devs didn't test in Firefox and something weird happens :)
On my iPad and iPhone I use Safari.
I mainly do web development. Anecdotally I hear about more problems from Firefox users than from Chrome, Safari, or Edge users. Sometimes that's not a problem with Firefox but it does seem to exist as the outlier.
1. Scrolling works really badly. 2. Save as PDF usually doesn’t work well.
I have noticed that quite a few posts mention the bad scrolling. Firefox devs just copy how Chrome works and you will make more people switch.
That’s makes chrome more power user friendly. Sadly
The feature was there, then was removed, readded, may be US-only now? I don't know WTF they're doing, but for shopping/donations I need to launch a non-Firefox browser.
I'm really hoping Apple introduces a comparable feature soon for iOS and macOS.
I seperate stuff using profiles (little avatar next to menu button on top-right corner)
Especially important if you want to split your clients' stuff and with your own things. (History, bookmarks, sync)
And sync is the second reason. Of course firefox would work too but they were just late to the game. I already had lots of stuff (bookmarks, history, passwords) to migrate to...
I would prefer Safari for longer battery life, less resource consumption and overall smooth experience (plus privacy features) than Chrome.
- Most of our web-app users are on Chrome anyway.
- The dev-tools are excellent.
- I'm lazy and it already has all my passwords.