HACKER Q&A
📣 voisin

How quickly do you plan to get the vaccine once available?


I may have fallen into a dark social media bubble of distrusting government/large corps and fear of potential side effects from a rushed-to-market vaccine, but I am feeling hesitant to take it once available. Since I respect the HN community and its generally informed and objective discussion about science, I am interested to hear how you all are thinking about the vaccine personally and if you will rush to take it once made available to you.


  👤 FroshKiller Accepted Answer ✓
I don't plan to get it quickly, because I am not a member of a high-risk group and can keep sheltering in place for the long term safely & comfortably. It's much more important to me to let others go ahead.

👤 sigmaprimus
I think I might be the exception on HN based on the current comments, as I am not in a hurry to get the vaccine. I know it has been in trials and appears to be safe but I personally don't think enough time has passed to properly make that determination.

I feel is that it has been less than a year since the pandemic was declared and the fact that a vaccine using new synthetic RNA technology that has never been used before is being promoted before studying the long term effects is scary as hell.

How many years did we use Antibiotics before it became apperant that over-use results in super bugs?

There have been many other novel medications that have turned out to be less than good after they were studied over a longer duration of time. I am worried in 5 or 10 years from now, a whole bunch of people are going to get some new type of autoimmune disease, or liver cancer, or their yet to be concieved kids will get it, or something I can't even imagine right now.

I hope I am wrong and that everything works out but I feel this whole situation could use some sober second thought before jumping in head first and dose-ing a large percentage of the human species so quickly with a novel technology.

* Edit: I would also like to see antibody tests being done prior to vaccination as already having antibodies might result in negative reactions that were not studied in the current trials, not to mention the effect it would have on the statistics that will be used as a metric to encourage more people to get jabbed.


👤 elmerfud
It largely depends on what access it provides. If it allows for painless international travel then I'll get right away. While covid-19 is no where near as deadly as yellow fever, in my mind it's not much different if there's access restrictions. I always had to carry my yellow card but I can't recall actually having to show it to anyone even when it's clearly listed as an entry restriction.

Governments and corporations have a very good history of doing shady stuff and rushing things when they shouldn't so it's not wrong to be sceptical based on history. To me it's about evaluation of risk profile and what you want to do.


👤 brudgers
At least a year. There is incentive misalignment. As is normal. Wearing a mask doesn’t bother me. I can get through another year of social distancing and caution.

I can wait for better data.


👤 PaulHoule
I live on a farm and work from home so I am pretty "sheltered-in-place" but I will probably get it as soon as it is generally available in my area.

That's likely to be when something stable with an ordinary cold chain is at normal pharmacies, but who knows? I work for a large University that probably has hundreds of those super-cold freezers and we get a supply I might go into campus for the first time in seven months...


👤 tlb
As soon as possible, while respecting the priority given to health-care workers and high-risk populations.

Vaccines aren't zero risk, but the risk is very low. The candidate Covid vaccines have been tested on 30-50k volunteers with 0 or maybe 1 adverse event, so the risk must be well below 1:10000. Given that the risk with Covid is much higher, like 1:100 of death and 1:20 of other nasty long-term effects, and (without vaccines) most people would get it, that seems like a fantastic deal.

People in areas with no virus, like New Zealand, could plausibly consider the risk not worth it yet.


👤 kliwo
I don't plan to get it because we don't know anything about its side effects.

👤 Normille
I think I'll wait a while. Not because I'm a tinfoil hatter, who thinks it's all a plot by Bill Gates and the paedo lizard men to control our minds... or anything like that. I'm just a bit wary of any medicine which is rushed out so quickly, when these things usually have to undergo years of testing before being declared safe for use on humans.

In hardware, software and now Covid vaccines, I try to avoid being an 'early adopter'. I wait til the bugs are ironed out.


👤 giantg2
What I want to know is how the vaccine works given: 1. You must recieve a certain viral load to contract covid and become a spreader 2. The problematic symptoms are thought to be an immune overreaction/dysfunction and vaccines stimulate the immune system to create antibodies for the virus 3. Moderna says you can still transmit the virus after receiving the vaccine, so I would only be protecting myself (not others as other comments claim)

So apparently I can recieve a vaccine that still allows me to contract the virus to the point where I can still have enough vital load to spread it, but I'm somehow protected from the severe symptoms which are thought to be an overreaction of the immune system which was previously stimulated into producing the antibodies to target this virus. I'd be interested to know how that works since I must be missing some mechanism.


👤 nunez
As soon as it's available. I want to travel again.

👤 billylo
I would follow my friends in the medical profession.

👤 auganov
I don't ever plan on getting it. Not remotely concerned about risks of the vaccine. Or the coronavirus. I have a very negative view of most heavy handed corona policies around the world and see them as a much bigger risk to my well being. Don't want to participate in any of that.

From a game theotetic perspective if most people get the vaccine, you're better off not taking it yourself. And if most don't, I will be happy with that too as a political statement.

For high risk individuals like very old people I wouldn't wait too long if the data is solid.


👤 smt88
I understand not trusting govt and large corps, but you can also read the studies on the vaccines yourself, as well as expert analysis by other parties (e.g. public health researchers at major institutions, with no ties to the large corps).

Nothing is zero-risk, but Covid is certainly a higher risk than even quickly-researched vaccines will be.


👤 st1x7
Do we have evidence for the rushed-to-markedness of any of the vaccines?